[Ubuntu-SG] New to singapore

Sat Nov 22 01:36:36 UTC 2014

On the technical side , we can also get a dedicated server. I am running a
dedicated server from US with the following specs for US$65/mth. Its
running VMWare with 3 Linux servers in it. One of them running CPanel + WHM
and hosting my websites/domains , including ubuntu.sg. The other two are
for me to play with apps.

Total costs of hardware+software (CPanel+WHM) < US$100. With that I have
all that need to basically open a webhosting company , which I used to do
but too troublesome so I shut it down.

- Processor Dual Intel Xeon L5520  Memory 24GB DDR3 ECC  Primary Hard Drive 1TB
SATA  Secondary Hard Drive None  Bandwidth 100Mbps Unmetered  IP Addresses 1
Primary + /28 Secondary (17 Total)  Operating System Custom (Note in
Comments)  Control Panel None  Data Center Jacksonville, FL

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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Muhammad Heidir <md.heidir at gmail.com>
wrote:

> We can cut cost by using AWS as the service provider. They charge by per
> hour per instance. Meaning if we run a single Linux server using a t2.micro
> hardware, it costs $0.020/hr.
> With the free tier, it is free for 750 hours and this is valid for a year
> from the day you signed up.
>
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
>
> There are a lot of Linux instances and Ubuntu is one of them. Due to the
> cost, I would suggest that we take a look into how we can charge this as a
> service. Compared to having a physical hardware which is a one-time cost
> and considering they need other stuff such as switches, routers and
> firewall. Yearly maintenance for the hardware devices is also a premium
> they need to fork out.
>
> Then again, we can consider which is the effective solution and share with
> the NGOs. Ultimately there will be cost, but it will be minimum compared to
> having a full infra within a DC.
>
> AWS also provide different pricing structure. It really depends on how the
> NGOs want to go along with it.
> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/purchasing-options/
>
>
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> On 21 Nov 2014, at 23:41, Ho Yi Hao Pipat <yihao.ho at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I like the idea of helping NGOs to manage their webserver. That will be a
> fantastic idea considering that we don't need someone to be on site all the
> time.
>
> But the issue is though, most of the time, the NGOs would already have a
> preferred web host provider that is very commonly bundled with a mail
> system.. To get them to change might take some convincing.
>
> I think the issue in Singapore is that the education system is so tied
> into the Windows system that it is often hard for people to change to
> something other than that. In my school days, writing a report was a horror
> as I preferred to use Open Office (No libre around yet) and it would often
> screw up when saved in .doc which means I would often have to "ahem" Office
> just to get my report done..
>
> Bringing that back to the IT scene in Singapore, with the Windows
> mentality, it is hard to find people who will be willing to take the
> plunge. Even if the open source solution will be more cost-effective in the
> long run. So, it will take some effort to get NGO to allow us to handle
> stuff for them.
>
> With that in mind, that shouldn't mean that we should give up but we
> should keep trying and see how we can help the NGOs since I think we all
> agree that open source is the most cost- effective way for them. Perhaps we
> could start from helping them migrate to Libre (or Open Office if that's
> your preference) from M$ office?
>
> Within ourselves, start a sinking fund where we can offer to manage NGOs
> website and email? Either the renting of servers or someone with the
> facility to host it? With of course a credit to us so that other NGOs might
> take notice?
>
> I'm just throwing some ideas around to see if we can get something kick
> started since a lot of stuff that we used to plan would either not move
> pass the talk about it phase or eventually quieten down with nothing done.
> Here's hoping somethings will change.
>
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>
> With regards,
> Yi Hao
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 9:37 PM, billy am <wickedpuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> isn't it the truth? I just did a major project with a 3rd party software
>> company at work. Company wide project with multiple Oracle servers ,
>> weblogc  , jboss , etc etc. From our side , there are only 2 people. Me and
>> the project manager who is more of a budget , schedule manager rather than
>> technical.
>>
>> Clearly , the value of a project manager , in SG at least , is at how
>> he/she handles the upper management on the budget / schedule and how to
>> communicate the requirement. Nothing about actual software / hardware /
>> setup / config / maintenance is required.
>>
>> Frankly , if anyone want to be actually managing IT infra and makes
>> decisions on IT , take MBA/CFA/ACCA/CPA. It would be faster.
>>
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>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Tom Goh <tomgohj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with that statement on management.  The universities teach kids
>>> that what they should aspire to is be a project manager.  I have asked
>>> several university students what they want to do after graduation and they
>>> all said project manager.  When asked why, they say that is what their
>>> professors tell them.
>>>
>>> That is why tech in Singapore is so bad.  Because we have project
>>> managers who don't know how to develop or run systems in the real world and
>>> get the wool pulled over their eyes.  They just rely on big vendors to
>>> propose solutions.
>>>
>>> Its getting better now that there is a growing start up culture.
>>> On Nov 21, 2014 7:45 PM, "Chow Loong Jin" <hyperair at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 01:26:29PM +0800, billy am wrote:
>>>> > Redhat has. Canonical I am not sure ... Mark did come down to
>>>> Singapore
>>>> > before. Suse yes.
>>>>
>>>> Red Hat's mostly a sales office, as are most other multi-national
>>>> companies
>>>> (e.g. Google, Facebook) which have bases in Singapore. I think the only
>>>> major
>>>> large corporation with a real coding base here is PayPal.
>>>>
>>>> > NUS mirrors everything btw. Including CRAN , CPAN , etc ... But again
>>>> , the
>>>> > Universities train office workers/drones , not technologists/hackers.
>>>> Pls
>>>> > keep it in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Not quite, they train people who think that coding is a stepping stone
>>>> toward
>>>> management. And then they become managers and hang up whatever little
>>>> xcoding
>>>> skills they had in the first place.
>>>>
>>>> > Linux is cheaper ONLY if in large numbers. For SMEs , Linux is a
>>>> nightmare.
>>>> > Windows admins with 3 - 4 years experience can be found for below 2k
>>>> / mth
>>>> > , if you know where and how to find.
>>>>
>>>> Eh speak for yourself. I used to work in an SME with only 3 people
>>>> (aside from
>>>> me). They're doing pretty well, and they're mostly a Linux shop.
>>>>
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