vm-builder

Serge Hallyn serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com
Fri Feb 7 16:25:51 UTC 2014


Quoting Ryan Harper (ryan.harper at ubuntu.com):
> * Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com> [2014-02-07 09:40]:
> > Quoting Ryan Harper (ryan.harper at ubuntu.com):
> > > * Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com> [2014-02-06 17:04]:
> > > > Quoting Peter Matulis (peter.matulis at canonical.com):
> > > > > On 12/10/2013 12:13 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Years ago it was decided that vm-builder would be deprecated in favor
> > > > > > of alternatives (cloud images, live-build, and some others).  This was
> > > > > > dicussed at at least two separate physical UDSes.  However, it was
> > > > > > never actually dropped from the archive.  As a result people kept
> > > > > > using it despite it being considered deprecated and no longer
> > > > > > maintained.  This is resulting in people losing data and time, i.e.
> > > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/1090223
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I intend to open a bug to ask that it be removed from the archive
> > > > > > for trusty.  If anyone objects, please reply here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What is the state of documentation for 'live-build and some others'?  We
> > > > > shouldn't assume everyone has been cloudified.
> > > > 
> > > > Pretty poor.  I am placing my hopes more on Robie's uvtool package than
> > > > live-build.  It is what I've been using for projects needing to migrate
> > > > from vmbuilder.  uvtool should definately gain a server guide section.
> > > 
> > > Definitely.  I'd be happy to contribute here.  I've been a heavy user of
> > > uvtool since I found out about it last fall.
> > 
> > Hi Ryan,
> > 
> > I could be wrong but think Robie was going to write a section, so be
> > sure to coordinate if so.
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > 
> > Note that there is one package left which is in heavy use and still
> > uses vm-builder:
> > 
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/auto-upgrade-testing/+bug/1261416
> > 
> > I do intend to come up with a patch to convert it to uvtool, however if
> > you have time, it sounds like you've used uvtool a lot more than I have,
> > so help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> I'll take a look.

Thanks!

> > > I saw this back in December, but didn't get a chance to play with it
> > > yet.
> > > 
> > > http://libguestfs.org/virt-builder.1.html
> > 
> > Interestingly, it appears to come down to using virt-install to
> > come up with the initial image :)
> 
> Hrm, I think I ended up here:
> 
> https://github.com/clalancette/oz/wiki/oz-install
> 
> Which appears to do install-from-scratch. Haven't tried this one either.

Aaah, that's the one I was talking about :)  (oz being un-googleable)

-serge




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