vm-builder
Peter Matulis
peter.matulis at canonical.com
Fri Feb 7 16:32:39 UTC 2014
On 02/07/2014 11:25 AM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Ryan Harper (ryan.harper at ubuntu.com):
>> * Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com> [2014-02-07 09:40]:
>>> Quoting Ryan Harper (ryan.harper at ubuntu.com):
>>>> * Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com> [2014-02-06 17:04]:
>>>>> Quoting Peter Matulis (peter.matulis at canonical.com):
>>>>>> On 12/10/2013 12:13 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Years ago it was decided that vm-builder would be deprecated in favor
>>>>>>> of alternatives (cloud images, live-build, and some others). This was
>>>>>>> dicussed at at least two separate physical UDSes. However, it was
>>>>>>> never actually dropped from the archive. As a result people kept
>>>>>>> using it despite it being considered deprecated and no longer
>>>>>>> maintained. This is resulting in people losing data and time, i.e.
>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/1090223
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I intend to open a bug to ask that it be removed from the archive
>>>>>>> for trusty. If anyone objects, please reply here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is the state of documentation for 'live-build and some others'? We
>>>>>> shouldn't assume everyone has been cloudified.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty poor. I am placing my hopes more on Robie's uvtool package than
>>>>> live-build. It is what I've been using for projects needing to migrate
>>>>> from vmbuilder. uvtool should definately gain a server guide section.
>>>>
>>>> Definitely. I'd be happy to contribute here. I've been a heavy user of
>>>> uvtool since I found out about it last fall.
>>>
>>> Hi Ryan,
>>>
>>> I could be wrong but think Robie was going to write a section, so be
>>> sure to coordinate if so.
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>>>
>>> Note that there is one package left which is in heavy use and still
>>> uses vm-builder:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/auto-upgrade-testing/+bug/1261416
>>>
>>> I do intend to come up with a patch to convert it to uvtool, however if
>>> you have time, it sounds like you've used uvtool a lot more than I have,
>>> so help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> I'll take a look.
>
> Thanks!
>> https://github.com/clalancette/oz/wiki/oz-install
Whoever wants to write documentation for these tools please refer to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide
Section 20.2 is for vmbuilder. We can replace it with these other
tools. Thanks!
/pmatulis
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