Mail Server

Sat Jan 30 16:44:02 UTC 2010

Well there were a number of considerations that I took into account,  
on the decsion, and yup Zimbra was in the top 3. Here are some of my  
reasons why I went with Zarafa.

1. Let's face it we are admins and can get by using any mail client to  
get the job done. But on the other hand users in general can't / won't  
even try. And people like Outlook. (blah I know) so far Zarafa is the  
only fully compliant MAPI server, and from my tests so far, outlook  
and zarafa play very well with each other!

2. The CEO likes his blackberry and Zarafa works with BES server, not  
to mention Z_push to push to my iPhone and other mobile phones.

3. One word calandars! With this setup unlike Zimbra, users don't have  
to use a web interface, nor learn something new, it just works like  
before, and sharing works great!

4. The pay for version also comes with great migration tools. So I can  
import PST files into zarafa so users don't loose a thing. Not to  
mention Active Directory authentication is simple to setup.

So as you can see most of my reasoning is because of what the users  
need, and them not needing to learn anything new. Plus administration  
of zarafa is a bit simpler than zimbra.

Cheers,
Eric

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:33 AM, "Nikolai K. Bochev" <n.bochev at grandstarco.com 
 > wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, why did you choose Zarafa, over lets say  
> Zimbra ?
> I am currently deploying zimbra on all my installs/clients, but i am  
> always looking for new solutions.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Peters" <eric at linuxsystems.net>
> To: "Douglas Stanley" <douglas.m.stanley at gmail.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-server at lists.ubuntu.com
> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:18:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Mail Server
>
> Whooo hoooo GUM!
>
> Hey Doug,
>
> Anyway I'm in the process of migrating from Exchange as we speak,  
> the setup I'm using is ASSP > Postfix > Zarafa
> And I agree about mailscanner, and amavis, spamassassin = pain in  
> the arse That's why I like ASSP all of those rolled
> into one nice SMTP transparent proxy ;) you should check it out.
>
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Douglas Stanley <douglas.m.stanley at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Well, just my 2 cents, realistically, what's more of a security risk,
> running webmin, or running windows server? :)
> I'd actually put them about neck and neck. You basically asking to get
> hacked either way, unless you really
> lock down the webmin, but if you know enough to do that, then you
> probably aren't running webmin.
>
> As for mail, yeah what all would this mail server be doing? If you're
> talking about using it in conjunction
> with win 2k3 server, most people who do that use ubuntu/linux as the
> filtering proxy, but maybe this person
> is trying to migrate away from exchange...
>
> If you're making a relay/filtering proxy, then I'd say postfix +
> amavisd-new +clamd + spamassassin...
> I wish I had an easier to configure option, but it seems the only
> other major alternative is mailscanner,
> which seems just as difficult to configure as amavis.
>
> As for mail storage, seems like dovecot is the standard choice,
> however, I've long been a huge fan of
> dbmail. It's probably the easiest mail store to set up and maintain.
> Plus it's very fast, and pretty easy
> to scale (just need to know how to scale a db server).
>
> Anyway, just my 2 cents :) Everyone keeps chipping in their 2 cents,
> and we'll soon have enough to buy
> a pack of gum!
>
> Doug
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Eric Peters  
> <eric at linuxsystems.net> wrote:
> > In my humble opinion webmin shouldn't be used in a production  
> environment
> > (or any environment for that matter). Remember a web-server  
> running Webmin
> > must be run 'setuid root', an improperly configured Webmin can  
> pose a huge
> > security threat to the system running it. Having such a powerful  
> tool in the
> > hands of a ignorant new user that is publicly accessible is just  
> asking for
> > trouble. If you can't administrate your server via CLI then you'd  
> be better
> > off running a windows server. Just my 2 cents on the webmin thing.
> >
> > Also there are other questions that need to be asked before you  
> just sudo
> > apt-get install MTA, IMAP, ANTI-SPAM, ANTI-VIRUS etc...
> >
> > i.e. is this mail server going to just be an MTA, is it going to  
> provide a
> > mail store for users, is it going to provide access to the mail  
> store via
> > IMAP, POP, or some other protocol, is it going to have any  
> enhanced security
> > for relays, spam, viruses etc... or do you just need the server to  
> send
> > system email. This is why I feel why you shouldn't just tasksel  
> mail server,
> > your going to have to do some research and planing before  
> deploying a mail
> > server.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Eric
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Jim Tarvid <tarvid at ls.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I am curious. Why shouldn't a new debian/ubuntu not use tasksel
> >> mail-server?
> >>
> >> tarvid at venus:~$ tasksel --task-packages mail-server
> >> dovecot-imapd
> >> procmail
> >> dovecot-common
> >> postfix
> >> libpth20
> >> libgpgme11
> >> libmysqlclient16
> >> mutt
> >> libpq5
> >> ssl-cert
> >> mailx
> >> bsd-mailx
> >> dovecot-pop3d
> >> mysql-common
> >>
> >> Not a bad start in two minutes flat.
> >>
> >> And why shouldn't a new user install webmin? They get a tool to  
> explore
> >> configuration and a path towards intimacy and awareness that can  
> lead to
> >> understanding. Of course, intellectual investment is required.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Emil Tullstedt  
> <sakjur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Best Andrew!
> >>> With Server 2003, do you mean Windows Server 2003 or a server  
> from 2003?
> >>> Ubuntu Server is not an add-on for Windows Server 2003, but an  
> external
> >>> server operative system.
> >>> If you wants to setup a mailserver with Ubuntu, please look at  
> this page
> >>> first:
> >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
> >>> --
> >>> sakjur
> >>> Emil Tullstedt
> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Andrew Butcher
> >>> <andrew.butcher at zambia.co.zm> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Guys
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I need some help setting up mail server using ubuntu software  
> on server
> >>>> 2003
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Andrew Butcher
> >>>> +260979783583/+260955202198
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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