Xen In Hardy
Chuck Short
zulcss at gmail.com
Thu Oct 25 12:46:16 UTC 2007
On 10/25/07, Liberio Cunha Neto <liberio.listas at gmail.com> wrote:
> some comments inline
>
>
> On 10/25/07, Chuck Short <zulcss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > In order to get Xen working really well for servers in the hardy
> > release. I wish to solicit opinions, in an effort to improve the spec
> > that I'm in the middle of writing:
> >
> > 1. Kernel side
> >
> > Since 2.6.23 will have xen paravirt-ops (domU) we should use that
> > right? However, it does not have the full features that users will
> > want. No HVM console and no Windows XP guests. Its just basic basic
> > domU support. So thats not really an option in my opinion. In gutsy,
> > we decided to switch to opensuse dom0 kernel, however this caused more
> > problems than what it was worth. So Im using fedora as a base this
> > time. I have already started to port their kernel from 2.6.22->2.6.2x.
>
> paravirt-ops is only supported for domUs (so doesn't work for the host
> kernel) and only X86 (no X86_64 available yet), what you are
> suggesting here ?
Im suggesting not to use paravirt-ops
>
> >
> > 2. Xen hypervisor side
> >
> > Recently, Xen-3.1.1 was released that contains various fixes for the
> > Xen-3.1. However the next version of (Xen-3.2) will be release in
> > November. This will (hopefully) include things like cpufreq support.
> > (This will also have to be ported from 2.6.18 to 2.6.24). In my
> > opinnon, we should be using Xen-3.2 for hardy. I would also like the
> > resync debian's patches with our own. So the tools will be in a better
> > shape.
>
> cpufreq is way out of shape , if you check the unstable tree and
> complains about it you will know, right now people using unstable is
> having all kinds of clock issues because this.
>
> >
> > 3. Windows support
> >
> > Users would like to use Xen to use windows with it (god only knows why ;)
>
> why they can't run windows right now ?, the main problem right now is
> windows drivers opensource or free available , they don't exists , but
> if you don't mind that load dom0 with networking and HD controllers
> (via qemu) I don't see any problems , other than need to create all by
> hand , no nice tool
>
> >
> > 4. Xen-tools
> >
> > I would like to expand our simple base of tools that we use now
> > (xen-tools, xenman). I would like to use things like virt-man
> > (especially for the desktop, however its redhat only no debian images)
> > however I might not have time for that.
>
> virt-manager have good things and bad ones , one that I really don't
> like is the way virt-manager store the domU configuration , instead of
> the default /etc/xen/domain.conf they use internaly stuff to manage
> this so example , if you have a windows or any HVM host and wants to
> enable qemu monitor (so you can change de CD image with the HVM
> running) instead of just adding monitor = 1 , to your config you will
> need to hack virt-manager to do it (this is only one example I have a
> lot more if you want)
>
>
> >
> >
> > Comments and help during the hardy release cycle is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > chuck
> >
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