Urdu language digitization

[Shabbir Ahmed]

I'm very much thank full, GOD be with you all. :)


On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Bug submit for language-selector (Ubuntu)
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1153188
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Shahar Or <mightyiampresence at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Great conversation. Can anyone who understands the issue file a bug
>> report please? Add the 'rtl' tag to it, subscribe our team and link it here.
>>
>> Sent from mobile נשלח מנייד
>> On Mar 9, 2013 7:49 PM, "Shabbir Ahmed" <shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> yes right, not just ubuntu but non of the softwares does so,  the only
>>> way is to use css3 font feature.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to be clear for me, even after installing Urdu language support in
>>>> Ubuntu. The Defaults (like fonts in firefox) Does not support well Urdu.
>>>> The user need to do many changes to fix problems with that.
>>>>
>>>> right? or i am still missing things?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> nafeesnaskh is ok, i just made a web site where i my self use CSS3 and
>>>>> download this font for view. but i think you are not getting my intention?
>>>>> is it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> For font,
>>>>>> fonts-nafees (contains only one font,
>>>>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/fonts-nafees), I have
>>>>>> compared it, it is the same as this one with same version:
>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please show me a page as an example to test my side too?
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ BBC uses CSS3 to use web font instead of
>>>>>> installed ones in users desktop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://font.urduweb.org/ &
>>>>>> http://anl4u.com/blog/install-urdu-fonts-in-linux-ubuntu-opensuse/collects many Urdu fonts for downloads if if they have license supports
>>>>>> distributing. May be they could be packaged at least as non-free.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In firefox: Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & colors: Advanced
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Font for: try "Other Languages" as there is no Urdu then choose the
>>>>>>> font you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if it works or we will if we have to report an issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can i use any script or patch to ubuntu that if a browser see urdu
>>>>>>>> it should use nafees-font as default. as i browse firefox i cant read the
>>>>>>>> text easily as it is not in the standard format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> im note sure fonts-nafees, the file names are same but the one i
>>>>>>>>> have is 286KB where as the one in ubuntu repo is only 86KB.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have just read its license which allow modification, merging &
>>>>>>>>>> distribution under same license with one exception concerning naming.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it same font which is already packaged: fonts-nafees made by
>>>>>>>>>> same center on Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>> Does these fonts work well: fonts-nafees & fonts-paktype, both
>>>>>>>>>> packaged for Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have no experience about kbd layouts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Abdellah Ch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ahan thanks alot for the reply, yes thats what i am talking
>>>>>>>>>>> about the default keyboard layouts in operating systems and the default
>>>>>>>>>>> fonts are not helpfull, thats what i want that every one should be able to
>>>>>>>>>>> read and write urdu. yes i can send you our official (country) site where
>>>>>>>>>>> you can, not only find font but keyboard lay out as well, made for windows
>>>>>>>>>>> machines. but i can help you porting it to linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>>>>>> this is the link to font, if it's source is not available I can
>>>>>>>>>>> work for and make it work again ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you can read and download other thing related to urdu.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to discuss it in more detail i am available.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>> Shabbir.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <
>>>>>>>>>>> sh.yaron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shabbir!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually investigated some Linux issue about Urdu fonts in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromium and Firefox, apparently the default fonts doesn't work correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you name a single open source font that can be the default
>>>>>>>>>>>> for Urdu?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't read Urdu very well but since I can understand Arabic I
>>>>>>>>>>>> can see what letters might be wrong or misleading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What else can you tell us about Urdu support in computerized
>>>>>>>>>>>> systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love open source, here I explain how i want to contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually i am looking for a way to tell wat im upto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I belong to Pakistan her Urdu language is spoken and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> understood, many of the ppl want to use web but they cant use it just bcaz
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they dont understand english, every thing that is published in urdu here is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the format of images over the internet and you can understand issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a text published as an image over the web, the text takes longer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> download, cant search, u cant search for a inside word from google etc. my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish is that we together work for those who want to use the web and use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right in their own language. theres support already included many browsers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and OS but that is not standard, the font is not it has to be to be more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> readable. for urdu any time browsed via internet should hv a default font
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is our national font call nastaleeq. this font is used for every news
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper in our country and all the official publishing. Please guide how can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you help me further improve the web experience and bring more ppl to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet from countries like us. we can further talk find ways to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is my dream I shall be thankful i guess this is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> charity, bring them closer to the world and increase their knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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