Urdu language digitization

Sun Mar 10 10:49:44 UTC 2013

Greetings,

Bug submit for language-selector (Ubuntu)

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1153188

On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Shahar Or <mightyiampresence at gmail.com>wrote:

> Great conversation. Can anyone who understands the issue file a bug report
> please? Add the 'rtl' tag to it, subscribe our team and link it here.
>
> Sent from mobile נשלח מנייד
> On Mar 9, 2013 7:49 PM, "Shabbir Ahmed" <shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yes right, not just ubuntu but non of the softwares does so,  the only
>> way is to use css3 font feature.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to be clear for me, even after installing Urdu language support in
>>> Ubuntu. The Defaults (like fonts in firefox) Does not support well Urdu.
>>> The user need to do many changes to fix problems with that.
>>>
>>> right? or i am still missing things?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> nafeesnaskh is ok, i just made a web site where i my self use CSS3 and
>>>> download this font for view. but i think you are not getting my intention?
>>>> is it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For font,
>>>>> fonts-nafees (contains only one font,
>>>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/fonts-nafees), I have
>>>>> compared it, it is the same as this one with same version:
>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please show me a page as an example to test my side too?
>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ BBC uses CSS3 to use web font instead of
>>>>> installed ones in users desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://font.urduweb.org/ &
>>>>> http://anl4u.com/blog/install-urdu-fonts-in-linux-ubuntu-opensuse/collects many Urdu fonts for downloads if if they have license supports
>>>>> distributing. May be they could be packaged at least as non-free.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In firefox: Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & colors: Advanced
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Font for: try "Other Languages" as there is no Urdu then choose the
>>>>>> font you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if it works or we will if we have to report an issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can i use any script or patch to ubuntu that if a browser see urdu
>>>>>>> it should use nafees-font as default. as i browse firefox i cant read the
>>>>>>> text easily as it is not in the standard format.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> im note sure fonts-nafees, the file names are same but the one i
>>>>>>>> have is 286KB where as the one in ubuntu repo is only 86KB.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have just read its license which allow modification, merging &
>>>>>>>>> distribution under same license with one exception concerning naming.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it same font which is already packaged: fonts-nafees made by
>>>>>>>>> same center on Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>> Does these fonts work well: fonts-nafees & fonts-paktype, both
>>>>>>>>> packaged for Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have no experience about kbd layouts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Abdellah Ch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ahan thanks alot for the reply, yes thats what i am talking about
>>>>>>>>>> the default keyboard layouts in operating systems and the default fonts are
>>>>>>>>>> not helpfull, thats what i want that every one should be able to read and
>>>>>>>>>> write urdu. yes i can send you our official (country) site where you can,
>>>>>>>>>> not only find font but keyboard lay out as well, made for windows machines.
>>>>>>>>>> but i can help you porting it to linux.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>>>>> this is the link to font, if it's source is not available I can
>>>>>>>>>> work for and make it work again ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you can read and download other thing related to urdu.
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization.htm
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if you want to discuss it in more detail i am available.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>> Shabbir.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <
>>>>>>>>>> sh.yaron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shabbir!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I actually investigated some Linux issue about Urdu fonts in
>>>>>>>>>>> Chromium and Firefox, apparently the default fonts doesn't work correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you name a single open source font that can be the default
>>>>>>>>>>> for Urdu?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can't read Urdu very well but since I can understand Arabic I
>>>>>>>>>>> can see what letters might be wrong or misleading.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What else can you tell us about Urdu support in computerized
>>>>>>>>>>> systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I love open source, here I explain how i want to contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually i am looking for a way to tell wat im upto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I belong to Pakistan her Urdu language is spoken and
>>>>>>>>>>>> understood, many of the ppl want to use web but they cant use it just bcaz
>>>>>>>>>>>> they dont understand english, every thing that is published in urdu here is
>>>>>>>>>>>> in the format of images over the internet and you can understand issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> with a text published as an image over the web, the text takes longer to
>>>>>>>>>>>> download, cant search, u cant search for a inside word from google etc. my
>>>>>>>>>>>> wish is that we together work for those who want to use the web and use it
>>>>>>>>>>>> right in their own language. theres support already included many browsers
>>>>>>>>>>>> and OS but that is not standard, the font is not it has to be to be more
>>>>>>>>>>>> readable. for urdu any time browsed via internet should hv a default font
>>>>>>>>>>>> which is our national font call nastaleeq. this font is used for every news
>>>>>>>>>>>> paper in our country and all the official publishing. Please guide how can
>>>>>>>>>>>> you help me further improve the web experience and bring more ppl to
>>>>>>>>>>>> internet from countries like us. we can further talk find ways to move
>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is my dream I shall be thankful i guess this is a charity,
>>>>>>>>>>>> bring them closer to the world and increase their knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
>> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>>
>>
> --
> Ubuntu-RTL mailing list
> Ubuntu-RTL at lists.ubuntu.com
> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-rtl
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-rtl/attachments/20130310/bcb88ade/attachment-0001.html>