Urdu language digitization

[Yaron Shahrabani]

Shabbir, I think we should expand our work to other Linux distros, are you
up for it?

Yaron Shahrabani

<Hebrew translator>



On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm very much thank full, GOD be with you all. :)
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Bug submit for language-selector (Ubuntu)
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1153188
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Shahar Or <mightyiampresence at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Great conversation. Can anyone who understands the issue file a bug
>>> report please? Add the 'rtl' tag to it, subscribe our team and link it here.
>>>
>>> Sent from mobile נשלח מנייד
>>> On Mar 9, 2013 7:49 PM, "Shabbir Ahmed" <shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> yes right, not just ubuntu but non of the softwares does so,  the only
>>>> way is to use css3 font feature.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to be clear for me, even after installing Urdu language support
>>>>> in Ubuntu. The Defaults (like fonts in firefox) Does not support well Urdu.
>>>>> The user need to do many changes to fix problems with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> right? or i am still missing things?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <shabbir1282 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> nafeesnaskh is ok, i just made a web site where i my self use CSS3
>>>>>> and download this font for view. but i think you are not getting my
>>>>>> intention? is it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For font,
>>>>>>> fonts-nafees (contains only one font,
>>>>>>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/quantal/fonts-nafees), I have
>>>>>>> compared it, it is the same as this one with same version:
>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could you please show me a page as an example to test my side too?
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/ BBC uses CSS3 to use web font instead of
>>>>>>> installed ones in users desktop.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://font.urduweb.org/ &
>>>>>>> http://anl4u.com/blog/install-urdu-fonts-in-linux-ubuntu-opensuse/collects many Urdu fonts for downloads if if they have license supports
>>>>>>> distributing. May be they could be packaged at least as non-free.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In firefox: Edit > Preferences > Content > Fonts & colors: Advanced
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Font for: try "Other Languages" as there is no Urdu then choose the
>>>>>>>> font you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know if it works or we will if we have to report an issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can i use any script or patch to ubuntu that if a browser see urdu
>>>>>>>>> it should use nafees-font as default. as i browse firefox i cant read the
>>>>>>>>> text easily as it is not in the standard format.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> im note sure fonts-nafees, the file names are same but the one i
>>>>>>>>>> have is 286KB where as the one in ubuntu repo is only 86KB.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Sneetsher <sneetsher at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have just read its license which allow modification, merging &
>>>>>>>>>>> distribution under same license with one exception concerning naming.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it same font which is already packaged: fonts-nafees made by
>>>>>>>>>>> same center on Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>>> Does these fonts work well: fonts-nafees & fonts-paktype, both
>>>>>>>>>>> packaged for Ubuntu?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no experience about kbd layouts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Abdellah Ch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ahan thanks alot for the reply, yes thats what i am talking
>>>>>>>>>>>> about the default keyboard layouts in operating systems and the default
>>>>>>>>>>>> fonts are not helpfull, thats what i want that every one should be able to
>>>>>>>>>>>> read and write urdu. yes i can send you our official (country) site where
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can, not only find font but keyboard lay out as well, made for windows
>>>>>>>>>>>> machines. but i can help you porting it to linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization/Fonts/nafeesWebNaskh.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the link to font, if it's source is not available I can
>>>>>>>>>>>> work for and make it work again ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can read and download other thing related to urdu.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.crulp.org/software/localization.htm
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to discuss it in more detail i am available.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shabbir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Yaron Shahrabani <
>>>>>>>>>>>> sh.yaron at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Shabbir!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I actually investigated some Linux issue about Urdu fonts in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chromium and Firefox, apparently the default fonts doesn't work correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you name a single open source font that can be the default
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Urdu?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't read Urdu very well but since I can understand Arabic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can see what letters might be wrong or misleading.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What else can you tell us about Urdu support in computerized
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yaron Shahrabani
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Hebrew translator>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Shabbir Ahmed <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shabbir1282 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love open source, here I explain how i want to contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually i am looking for a way to tell wat im upto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I belong to Pakistan her Urdu language is spoken and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understood, many of the ppl want to use web but they cant use it just bcaz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they dont understand english, every thing that is published in urdu here is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the format of images over the internet and you can understand issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a text published as an image over the web, the text takes longer to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> download, cant search, u cant search for a inside word from google etc. my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wish is that we together work for those who want to use the web and use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right in their own language. theres support already included many browsers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and OS but that is not standard, the font is not it has to be to be more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> readable. for urdu any time browsed via internet should hv a default font
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is our national font call nastaleeq. this font is used for every news
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper in our country and all the official publishing. Please guide how can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you help me further improve the web experience and bring more ppl to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet from countries like us. we can further talk find ways to move
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is my dream I shall be thankful i guess this is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charity, bring them closer to the world and increase their knowledge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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