replacing the Startup Disk Creator

[chris hermansen]

Flocculant and list,

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:37 AM, <flocculant at gmx.co.uk> wrote:

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>> The problem seems to be that the Startup Disk Creator cannot manage the
>> Wily iso files, while other tools can do it.
>>
>> I hope that Marc gets green light to go ahead and convert the Startup
>> Disk Creator into a cloning tool. I'm sure he can make it reliable that
>> way.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
>> Is there actually anything that's hard evidence yet?
>
> Or are we still at the
>
> ... some people see some bugs in some way
>
> .... other people see the same bugs in a different way
>
> stage?
>

Not wishing to start, nor to prolong, an argument, I nevertheless feel as
though I should respond to this.

I was attempting to create a bootable USB stick with 15.10 on it so I could
follow the request to look for problems prior to the 15.10 final beta
release.

And the first problem I found was that I could not create a 15.10 USB stick
that boots from usb-creator-gtk running on 15.04.

Nio confirmed this problem, on x86 (I was trying on amd64).

As to "hard evidence", hmm I don't know what harder evidence you might
require.  Are you concerned this is "pilot error"?


>
> Which is just going to lead to yet another bug report with a bunch of heat
> - but not actually going anywhere.
>
> I'm happy to comment - but won't do so while we appear to only have a
> small section of people with issues.
>


Yes we are only two, but this is during pre-beta-release testing, not some
post-release problem.  I don't believe you should expect a huge number of
people finding (or not) this problem at this point in time... Nio and I may
well be the only two people who have tested this particular configuration.


>
> If the plan is to remove persistence and see what happens then that's
> great.
>
> Unfortunately the existing bug will include people marking as affects me
> from un-supported releases of *buntu.
>
> Just to make that point crystal clear - if it isn't 12.04 (for a couple of
> flavours) , 14.04, 15.04 or 15.10 then it should be ignored.


Well, that may be the case, but in the circumstances at hand, making a
bootable USB stick for Ubuntu 15.10 beta amd64 from an up-to-date Ubuntu
15.04 amd64 system hardly strikes me as some edge case that can be safely
ignored by instructing the people concerned to use a more mainstream
procedure.

Anyway.  I don't have a dog in this "let's replace usb-creator-gtk race";
I'm just trying to do my Ubuntu QA volunteer thing and the tool at hand is
broken.  I leave it to you all to figure out whether the tool needs fixing
or replacing.


-- 
Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com

C'est ma façon de parler.