Shared website development and/or hosting

[Jesper Jarlskov]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>wrote:

> On 11/15/2012 10:36 PM, Titanus Eramius wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:32:57 +0200
> > Jussi Kekkonen <tmt at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The biggest "why" for me is the fact that maintaining the platform
> >> (themes etc) and content tends to take more work than there's doers.
> >> If basic contents would be done with bigger team, translations would
> >> be easy to do and more easily organised than creating contents from
> >> scratch. All the rest is easily thrown to wiki I'd say.
> >>
> > In this I agree 100% and I think it should be the main reason for
> > working towards a common site. In DK we have around ~350 active
> > members, but only 2 admins and 2 mods, which (in my opinion) means some
> > things just don't get done.
> >
> > However, I too disagrees in having one forum only, since a fair part of
> > the danish users don't do english (at all). One solution might be to
> > have 5 "top level forums", so one first chooses language (DK, SE, NO,
> > FI and EN*), and then can browse the localized forum.
>
> I'd like to keep the forums discussion separate from this website
> discussion. I don't personally have any motivation to pursue a shared
> forum, even with areas for all different languages.
>
>
I agree, lets not focus on a common forum.


> > My rationale for thinking this way is the great value of past threads
> > in a forum, and collecting the knowledge of Scandinavia within one
> > site would be reason enough for me to work towards one site. Having all
> > this in one place, would also mean the search-function would show
> > results from all of the forums.
> >
> > A large site like this, would also be able to have a wiki and other
> > nice things which we currently don't have in DK because we lack
> > manpower.
>
> I'm not sure wiki should in the scope of this discussion either, but
> that's of course possible later. But why would we want/need a shared wiki?
>
>
I am a bit confused here, then. It seems I have missed the kind of
information you would present on the site.


> > One very big downside to all of this, could be that our forums would
> > loose their sense of nationality and become "too big" for some users.
> > This is why I think it's important that a common site would have
> > individual sections with individual language and so on.
> >
> > In the end, however, we all have to remember that we are doing this for
> > the users, not us.
> >
> > On another note, I would like to know what software and hosting
> > solutions you are using. Just out of curiosity.
>
> I believe most are using the Canonical-hosted servers.
>
> While the service is free for LoCos, it has some downsides. The biggest
> one not being able to work with the code "live". Anyway, this works
> relatively well, at least if you can test things you push somewhere else
> first.
>
>
When the LoCo service was introduced I remember people having trouble with
it because of long response times and a rather tough deployment process. I
am not sure whether this is still the case, though.
Regarding working on the live code, I'm not sure why you would want to do
that, it sounds like a really bad idea.


> > In DK we are using Wordpress for the entire site, and then phpBB for
> > the forum. They are both a bit bloated (in my opinion again) but the
> > support for both of them is good, and problems can always be fixed.
> >
> > For hosting we're using GleSYS in Falkenberg, Sweden, running a
> > standard VPS with Debian (we have a good reason...) for 23€/month. It
> > really kicks ass over normal hosting like one.com or the likes.
> >
> > Med venlig hilsen Nicky
> > Admin and so on in DK :-)
> >
> >
> > * Might not be a good idea, but if we have forums for Scandinavia, we
> >   might as well have for english and maybe Islandic and other "nordic"
> >   countries.
> >
>
> Cheers,
> Pasi
>
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Jesper Jarlskov
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