<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pasi@shimmerproject.org" target="_blank">pasi@shimmerproject.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 11/15/2012 10:36 PM, Titanus Eramius wrote:<br>
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:32:57 +0200<br>
> Jussi Kekkonen <<a href="mailto:tmt@ubuntu.com">tmt@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The biggest "why" for me is the fact that maintaining the platform<br>
>> (themes etc) and content tends to take more work than there's doers.<br>
>> If basic contents would be done with bigger team, translations would<br>
>> be easy to do and more easily organised than creating contents from<br>
>> scratch. All the rest is easily thrown to wiki I'd say.<br>
>><br>
> In this I agree 100% and I think it should be the main reason for<br>
> working towards a common site. In DK we have around ~350 active<br>
> members, but only 2 admins and 2 mods, which (in my opinion) means some<br>
> things just don't get done.<br>
><br>
> However, I too disagrees in having one forum only, since a fair part of<br>
> the danish users don't do english (at all). One solution might be to<br>
> have 5 "top level forums", so one first chooses language (DK, SE, NO,<br>
> FI and EN*), and then can browse the localized forum.<br>
<br>
I'd like to keep the forums discussion separate from this website<br>
discussion. I don't personally have any motivation to pursue a shared<br>
forum, even with areas for all different languages.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree, lets not focus on a common forum.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> My rationale for thinking this way is the great value of past threads<br>
> in a forum, and collecting the knowledge of Scandinavia within one<br>
> site would be reason enough for me to work towards one site. Having all<br>
> this in one place, would also mean the search-function would show<br>
> results from all of the forums.<br>
><br>
> A large site like this, would also be able to have a wiki and other<br>
> nice things which we currently don't have in DK because we lack<br>
> manpower.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure wiki should in the scope of this discussion either, but<br>
that's of course possible later. But why would we want/need a shared wiki?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am a bit confused here, then. It seems I have missed the kind of information you would present on the site.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> One very big downside to all of this, could be that our forums would<br>
> loose their sense of nationality and become "too big" for some users.<br>
> This is why I think it's important that a common site would have<br>
> individual sections with individual language and so on.<br>
><br>
> In the end, however, we all have to remember that we are doing this for<br>
> the users, not us.<br>
><br>
> On another note, I would like to know what software and hosting<br>
> solutions you are using. Just out of curiosity.<br>
<br>
I believe most are using the Canonical-hosted servers.<br>
<br>
While the service is free for LoCos, it has some downsides. The biggest<br>
one not being able to work with the code "live". Anyway, this works<br>
relatively well, at least if you can test things you push somewhere else<br>
first.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>When the LoCo service was introduced I remember people having trouble with it because of long response times and a rather tough deployment process. I am not sure whether this is still the case, though.</div>
<div>Regarding working on the live code, I'm not sure why you would want to do that, it sounds like a really bad idea.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> In DK we are using Wordpress for the entire site, and then phpBB for<br>
> the forum. They are both a bit bloated (in my opinion again) but the<br>
> support for both of them is good, and problems can always be fixed.<br>
><br>
> For hosting we're using GleSYS in Falkenberg, Sweden, running a<br>
> standard VPS with Debian (we have a good reason...) for 23€/month. It<br>
> really kicks ass over normal hosting like <a href="http://one.com" target="_blank">one.com</a> or the likes.<br>
><br>
> Med venlig hilsen Nicky<br>
> Admin and so on in DK :-)<br>
><br>
><br>
> * Might not be a good idea, but if we have forums for Scandinavia, we<br>
> might as well have for english and maybe Islandic and other "nordic"<br>
> countries.<br>
><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Pasi<br>
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