Shared website development and/or hosting

Jesper Jarlskov jesper at jarlskov.dk
Thu Nov 15 18:23:13 UTC 2012


I agree with Pasi. The first question should be 'why?', not 'how?'. What is
the purpose of this exercise? What is the expected outcome, and how would
that benefit the LoCos?

I could see the benefits in keeping a common knowledge database. There is a
bunch of very active people on the danish forum writing articles and
compiling easy-to-use scripts for solving common issues. Having a shared
database with more people cooperating on improving and keeping this
knowledge updated could be a great combination of efforts. An issue though,
could be if you actually want all information to be translated into all
languages. I'm afraid this might put on such a big translation effort that
it may very well kill the motivation for writing new stuff.

Gathering the support efforts in one common forum, though, I think is a bad
idea. I think the language barrier would be too big, and the gains too
small.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>wrote:

> On 15/11/12 18:43, Christoffer Holmstedt wrote:
>
>> I create this mailinglist thread so we can continue to discuss this
>> after yesterdays IRC meeting.
>>
>>  From my point of view I can see the benefits of moving all the LoCos
>> webpages to one common website that is translated to all different
>> languages though I don't see it as realistic in the at least a year or
>> two. The idea must be introduced to respective LoCo and broad
>> consensus must be achieved before a move is made otherwise the risk of
>> loosing active members in the move is too big.
>>
>> My best suggestion is to start with trying to set up a common
>> development infrastructure, compare different CMS and forum software
>> and go from there. The first step would be to introduce a nordic
>> community website and then when it's found mature a move could be
>> made, so for a few months nordic website would co-exist with
>> respective LoCo website.
>>
>
> To be honest, I don't think the technical side is to worry about. The
> person or group creating the website should decide what works best, after
> they've gotten the draft and specification for the website.
>
> The most important thing is the content.
>
> If we have a shared website, I think the content should be uniform too.
> Here's a few questions concerning that:
> * What is the information we want on the site and what are different LoCos
> willing to agree on?
> * Who would be willing to start drafting this common structure?
> * How should we cooperate on creating the structure?
> * How are possible disputes resolved?
>
> Again, technically I'm looking at a few months long process. The work with
> the content will most possibly take longer than that, because all LoCos
> need to agree at least in some level.
>
> I personally think the right way is to get hands dirty and start working
> on the common structure. Then we will have at least something to comment
> and improve. If something feels uncomfortable for some or all LoCos, then
> we'll at least find out the problematic spots as soon as possible.
> Ultimately this can lead to the decision to not create a shared website,
> but at least we didn't waste too much time in drafting it, including the
> technical side.
>
> For starters, we will need people from all LoCos to work together on the
> structure. Let's not waste time arguing over the best CMS or "the right way
> to do it", since we don't even know what we want from the website.
>
> Cheers,
> Pasi
>
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