complain about petty dictator op on freenode

[Clay Weber]

I have to agree 100% here.

On January 11, 2015 12:29:32 PM EST, Joseph Price <pricechild at gmail.com> wrote:
>I'd argue it stops being a personal issue when channel access is used
>to
>remove someone from the channel... I figure it's perfectly reasonable
>to
>complain/contest this decision? I'm sad if others don't agree.
>
>Oh and while I'm at it, I don't buy the whole "ops aren't paid"
>statements... it shouldn't be used as justification - if someone
>doesn't
>want to deal with something, they can decline to get involved.
>
>On 11 January 2015 at 17:04, Seb Lemery <seblemery at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You need to take your issues to him,  it looks like a personal issue.
>Ops
>> are not paid.  They don't "have"  to give out anything. NTZ looks
>like he
>> was expecting something like a kid expects dinner.  #ubuntu is not a
>place
>> to expect answers but guidance, you have to go and read the docs.
>> On Jan 11, 2015 11:16 AM, "indigo196" <indigo196 at rochester.rr.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 02:35 -0500, Seb Lemery wrote:
>>> > Not everyone is an official member. You need to be patient.
>Someone
>>> > else will help later.
>>> >
>>> I agree with the need to be patient.
>>>
>>> I also understand that a new user unfamiliar with IRC will not
>>> understand not getting help when there is a 'large number' of people
>in
>>> the room. I am not sure how to best communicate some of the nuances
>of
>>> IRC, but it is an area that could be improved.
>>>
>>> In the particular case we are discussing the user asking for help
>was
>>> not the most polite, but neither was at least one person who was
>>> refusing help. This was not a case of not getting an answer, but a
>case
>>> of rather rudely being told to go help themselves. It is a response
>that
>>> aligns with RTFM and not the Ubuntu Community's desire to be helpful
>to
>>> new users.
>>>
>>> After sleeping on the issue I am most concerned with the following:
>>>
>>>  - overall rude tone from the person responding to the request for
>help.
>>>  - repeated "that won't fix your problem" responses, but no effort
>to
>>> offer an actual solution.
>>>
>>> I don't think either person was in the right in that conversation.
>Did
>>> the operator talk privately with ntz?
>>>
>>> Charles
>>>
>>>
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