complain about petty dictator op on freenode

[Joseph Price]

I'd argue it stops being a personal issue when channel access is used to
remove someone from the channel... I figure it's perfectly reasonable to
complain/contest this decision? I'm sad if others don't agree.

Oh and while I'm at it, I don't buy the whole "ops aren't paid"
statements... it shouldn't be used as justification - if someone doesn't
want to deal with something, they can decline to get involved.

On 11 January 2015 at 17:04, Seb Lemery <seblemery at gmail.com> wrote:

> You need to take your issues to him,  it looks like a personal issue. Ops
> are not paid.  They don't "have"  to give out anything. NTZ looks like he
> was expecting something like a kid expects dinner.  #ubuntu is not a place
> to expect answers but guidance, you have to go and read the docs.
> On Jan 11, 2015 11:16 AM, "indigo196" <indigo196 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 02:35 -0500, Seb Lemery wrote:
>> > Not everyone is an official member. You need to be patient. Someone
>> > else will help later.
>> >
>> I agree with the need to be patient.
>>
>> I also understand that a new user unfamiliar with IRC will not
>> understand not getting help when there is a 'large number' of people in
>> the room. I am not sure how to best communicate some of the nuances of
>> IRC, but it is an area that could be improved.
>>
>> In the particular case we are discussing the user asking for help was
>> not the most polite, but neither was at least one person who was
>> refusing help. This was not a case of not getting an answer, but a case
>> of rather rudely being told to go help themselves. It is a response that
>> aligns with RTFM and not the Ubuntu Community's desire to be helpful to
>> new users.
>>
>> After sleeping on the issue I am most concerned with the following:
>>
>>  - overall rude tone from the person responding to the request for help.
>>  - repeated "that won't fix your problem" responses, but no effort to
>> offer an actual solution.
>>
>> I don't think either person was in the right in that conversation. Did
>> the operator talk privately with ntz?
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
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