complain about petty dictator op on freenode

Seb Lemery seblemery at
Sun Jan 11 17:04:50 UTC 2015

You need to take your issues to him,  it looks like a personal issue. Ops
are not paid.  They don't "have"  to give out anything. NTZ looks like he
was expecting something like a kid expects dinner.  #ubuntu is not a place
to expect answers but guidance, you have to go and read the docs.
On Jan 11, 2015 11:16 AM, "indigo196" <indigo196 at> wrote:

> On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 02:35 -0500, Seb Lemery wrote:
> > Not everyone is an official member. You need to be patient. Someone
> > else will help later.
> >
> I agree with the need to be patient.
> I also understand that a new user unfamiliar with IRC will not
> understand not getting help when there is a 'large number' of people in
> the room. I am not sure how to best communicate some of the nuances of
> IRC, but it is an area that could be improved.
> In the particular case we are discussing the user asking for help was
> not the most polite, but neither was at least one person who was
> refusing help. This was not a case of not getting an answer, but a case
> of rather rudely being told to go help themselves. It is a response that
> aligns with RTFM and not the Ubuntu Community's desire to be helpful to
> new users.
> After sleeping on the issue I am most concerned with the following:
>  - overall rude tone from the person responding to the request for help.
>  - repeated "that won't fix your problem" responses, but no effort to
> offer an actual solution.
> I don't think either person was in the right in that conversation. Did
> the operator talk privately with ntz?
> Charles
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