The Floodbots

[Alan Bell]

yeah, my idea (which didn't go down to widespread critical acclaim) was 
to have a bot that was continuously +o and responding to unregistered 
users who were trying to talk, my intent was to allow unrestricted 
read-only access to the channel so I probably actually wanted -r+z with 
+q $~a, if anyone was going to talk whilst unregistered a bot would 
respond and message/notice them with more details on where to go to get 
help registering. My objective with this was to mirror the level of 
access you get to pretty much any forum, blog, website, mailing list 
with a public archive. You don't need to jump through any hoops to 
passively read what is going on, but the privilege of talking requires a 
tiny bit more effort.
This wasn't a universally popular proposal, however the old floodbots 
have a lot of code that is dedicated to removing malicious unregistered 
users from talking whilst protecting the ability of real unregistered 
users to talk. I was questioning whether the value of unregistered users 
talking exceeds the cost of maybe a thousand lines of code.

Alan.


On 06/02/14 10:41, Joseph Price wrote:
> Ignoring the wider problem for now I'd just like to clear up some 
> technical bits...
>
> On 6 February 2014 09:49, Alan Bell <alan.bell at libertus.co.uk 
> <mailto:alan.bell at libertus.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     4) we can move to +r+z in the large channels
>
> *snip*
>
>     We could set the channel(s) to +r+z should there be unusual
>     activity, returning to the normal state of affairs ASAP.
>
>
> From http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml :
>     +r prevents users who are not identified to NickServ from joining 
> the channel. Users will receive a server notice explaining this if 
> they try to join.
>     When +z is set, the effects of +b, +q, and +m are relaxed. For 
> each message, if that message would normally be blocked by one of 
> these modes, it is instead sent to all the users who are currently set 
> +o (channel operator).
>
> +z does not relax +r in any way.
>
> If you would like to quiet unidentified users (+q $~a) then +z would 
> mean these messages continue to reach +o users. During an attack, +z 
> can be useful for a short time to allow registered users to continue 
> to discuss issues without seeing disruption while channel operators 
> simultaneously find a better solution and help quieted users who 
> cannot be seen by anyone else.
>
> Setting +z is not suitable unless you have a committed number of +o 
> users while it is active.
>
> Pricey
>
>


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