A view from the outside - RE: Stepping Down

[Paul O'Malley - gnu's not unix -]

Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:
> On 07/09/2009 18:08, Richard JOHNSON wrote:
>> <    Foo!n=foo at bar/baz [requested by<OP>: "no idling, please"]
>>
>> #ubuntu-ops is a public IRC channel, this "NO IDLING" rule is useless at
>> best. Why don't you want people idling in there? I know why a lot didn't,
>> and I will let it be known, I have the logs to back it up, over 3 years
>> worth that I would be glad to let everyone read, but I won't be that public
>> with it, unless you want me to be. The reason is, you don't want those
>> idling to see you talking, at times, mean of other people you are plotting
>> to kick and ban from some channel.
> 
> I have to echo Richard's sentiments here. "No idling" is a very weird 
> rule, I'm in about 50 very different IRC channels at any stage and I've 
> never seen such a convention, so to kick users for idling is just 
> strange. There are many legit reasons for someone to idle. Perhaps they 
> want to make themselves available for help, perhaps they want to 
> understand how the IRC team works, etc.
> 
> I don't think the IRC team is all bad, but a less hostile and more 
> mature approach to things could certainly go a long way.
> 
> -Jonathan
> 
no idling came about due to a problem

trolls playing to an audience
- made it (#ubuntu-ops) a hard to manage place

It makes a level of sense.

If you wanted to watch what happened the logs where there.

I have not been there in a very long time.