Stepping down from the IRC team

[Chris Oattes]

Martin Meredith wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:01:07PM +0100, Chris Oattes wrote:
>> Martin Meredith wrote:
>>
>>> But surely, more than one op retiring for the same or similar reasons is a good
>>> enough reason for concern?
>>>
>>> Seveas
>>>
>> I thought Seveas left because he decided to ban a user forever and said
>> that he would leave if the user was ever allowed back in to the channel.
>> The ban wasn't as all-encompassing as he would have liked, and the user
>> managed to skirt round it somehow. Seveas then assumed that he was
>> unbanned by someone, and left.
>>
>> That was my understanding of the situation anyway.
>> Chris (Seeker`)
> 
> As it was mine, until a conversation I had in private with someone earlier
> 
>     <Them>	Seveas
>     <Me>	sev stepped down for something else completely... 
>     <Me>	I think...
>     <Them>	na - he wanted to go a year or two before
>     <Me>	it was a bit of a weird one which I still can't get my head around.
>     <Them>	he was tired fed up and so forth
>     <Them>	what was
>     <Me>	Seveas's leaving.
>     <Them>	ahh 
>     <Them>	he was fed up and just about tolerated 
>     <Them>	being there
>     <Them>	then someone removed NZKs ban (albeit by accident)
>     <Them>	he hated nzk more than anything on planet earth
>     <Them>	nzk was the excuse 
>     <Them>	but the tiredness was there
>     <Them>	the fedupness was there
> 
> Which was why I included him in the list

I have no idea who "Them" is; If Seveas wishes to post on here to
clarify why he left it would be useful. All I know is what I saw happen.
Quotes from anonymous 3rd parties speculating about things don't help,
and is representative of what has been going on throughout this thread.
"Something needs to be fixed, but I won't say what". I haven;t seen any
real attempts to actually say what the problem actually is, just several
people stating that there is a problem they can't give any examples of.

"I have a problem with my computer. I can't describe the problem, any
steps to reproduce it, only that 5 or 6 programs have stopped working as
a result. Please fix my problem." If said that in any software support
channel, they would be asked to come back when they can actually provide
a bit more information.

And I realise that there may well be a problem with a system, and
whether it was 5 or 6 ops that left because of it isn't the point, but
an error in almost 17% of your examples is a fairly big error, it just
makes the scientist in me a bit uncomfortable.

Chris (Seeker`)