Stepping down from the IRC team

[Michael Lustfield]

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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:17:35 +0100
Matt Darcy <ubuntu.lists at projecthugo.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> 
> Michael Lustfield wrote:
> > To be perfectly honest - I didn't intend to reply to this at all. I
> > want to say something though..
> > 
> > I've noticed this trend in some ops. Especially some of the older ones.
> > It's these ops that make me reconsider my stance in the community. On
> > the other hand, some of the more important ops have strongly upheld the
> > meaning of Ubuntu.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, it seems to be the attitude of these poor ops that is
> > coming to reflect the attitude of the community.
> > 
> > As I'm typing this I'm reading a message from Dave whom I regard as
> > a very good op. I'll drop it at that.
> > 
> > On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:57:13 +0100
> > Martin Meredith <mez at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> To whom it may concern,
> > 
> >> Over the last few months, my interactions with the rest of the team seem to be
> >> moving along the path where I no longer feel that I can be a part of the IRC
> >> team any longer.  The current attitude within the team feels to me to be an
> >> elitist one, and that every comment, every action is scrutinised and jumped upon
> >> if it's not the "one true path".
> > 
> >> I rarely talk anymore within the Ubuntu Ops channel, as anytime I have done,
> >> I'm made to feel as if I've done something wrong.
> > 
> >> I believe myself to be a good operator, and I tend to try and do things in a
> >> different way to the rest of the team, trying to mediate, rather than just to
> >> kick and ban.  However, I feel that I no longer have (and possibly never have had)
> >> the rest of the team behind my actions.
> > 
> >> For this, and the general disillusionment and disenchantment that I feel within
> >> the team, I respectfully step down from my position as operator.
> > 
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Martin "Mez" Meredith
> > 
> > 
> > 
> Guys,
> 
> If this is a genuine issue - which is sounds like it is, call it out, if
> you feel some ops have the wrong attitude/path call it and why - lets
> discuss it openly rather than through clouded "some ops have this"
> "others upheld the spirit" etc, from a personal point I'm very open to
> critisism and from a team point I don't see why not, but if there is
> going to be a moan, then lets be frank about it call it out. If a
> mailing list is not the most appropriate place, which it probably isn't
> due to how public it is, then lets maybe get together for an IRC meeting
> and chat it through.
> 
> Matt
> 

I've complained about LjL and pleia2 previously. That seemed to fall on
deaf ears as well as other ops ignoring the point of what I was saying.
They're not the only ones I have issues with, although LjL does seem to
have changed his attitude somewhat.

I'm not going to take this further though, I'm sure Mez can go into
much more detail than I can anyway.

- -- 
Michael Lustfield
Kalliki, SD LoCo

Network and Systems Administrator
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