John Vivirito gnomefreak at
Tue Apr 29 17:21:09 UTC 2008

Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
> 2008/4/29 Tony Yarusso <tonyyarusso at>:
> I also note that I count a grand total of 11 lines spoken either by or to
>> you in the main parts of Ubuntu namespace in the last month, zero of which
>> was in any of the places where the big issues at hand occurred or where the
>> followup discussion of this team have been.  This makes me very, very
>> curious on what grounds you think yourself remotely qualified to say
>> anything about it.
> Please count again. I'm very active in several channels in the Ubuntu
> namespace that has now suddenly lost services and in which
> discussions have followed after he left. Also note that I'm not commenting
> on the specific or issueuser that made him leave, but on
> the way he left. Do you think people doesn't notice when such a well known
> character leaves like that, "slamming doors and pulling
> cables", so to speak?
>> Oh, and please stop trying to shove more respected people out of our
>> community than have been pushed out already.  It's not appreciated.
> I have no idea what you're referring to. Have I tried to shove anyone out?
> Quite the contrary. Seveas had already disconnected
> from the network a long time before my post, and the bots with him. About my
> comment regarding Hobbsee encouraging people to
> leave while staying connected herself; well if that isn't hypocricy, then I
> don't know what is. That's not shoving.
> If trolls are a problem, and there isn't enough people to handle it, then it
> seems better to seek more people than encouraging
> people to leave in protest. That was my point, and now I've made it twice.
> Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I havent finished reading all the posts from lastnight and today yet but
i dont think hobbsee was suggesting people leave i think its more of
people were already thinking about it and that is what she meant. I can
hoestly say i have felt the same way Dennis and others have felt but i
seem to take breaks (some purposly or like the last break i took was for
health reasons and it gives me a clearing POV on issues with trolls
ect... that i couldnt see prior due to frustration. by no means am i
condoning the way he left but i do understand WHY he left

Sincerely Yours,
    John Vivirito
Linux User# 414246

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