NEW Sub-Teams for Ubuntu GNOME

[Tim]

On 10/09/15 09:59, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Tim <darkxst at fastmail.fm <mailto:darkxst at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
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> Hi Tim and thanks for your reply :)
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>     On 10/09/15 06:55, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>     > I'd like to introduce:
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>     >  1. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-humdev <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-humdev> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-humdev>
>     >  2. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artmark <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark>
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>     really, can we come up with better names for these teams, 
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> We're merging 3 sub-teams in 1 so what 'other' names do you have in mind? :)
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> Is it really necessary to worry about the name? I mean, it is enough for us to understand what each sub-team is for and we can simply
> translate the idea into words and update our Wiki ;)
> So, I am not sure what 'other names' should we use?
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> If you, for example, read the description of:
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artmark <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark>
but what is "artmark"! certainly doesnt convey marketing if view outside of a context, where you know what it means.

how about:
ubuntugnome-media
ubuntugnome-pr
or
ubuntugnome-artmktg
the last of which is ugly, but atleast a little self descriptive. I think I would go for the first, ubuntugnome-media
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>     /This is a NEW sub-team for Ubuntu GNOME and will be dedicated for:
>     (a) Artwork.
>     (b) Marketing.
>     (c) Communications.
>     (d) Public Relations.
>     (e) Translations./
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The first four make sense, remind me why translations is bundled up in this?
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> To rename a launchpad team with a mailing list, I need to remove the mailing list and redo the entire thing. I don't mind but I see no 'good'
> reason for that, IMHO. But then again, if you guys think the name is a high priority then sure :)
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> Just for everyone's information:
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> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artmark <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark> vs “Ubuntu GNOME Artwork & Marketing” team
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> It is a click away to rename the 2nd name, which is a label (Ubauntu GNOME Artwork & Marketing team) but to change the first one
> (~ubuntugnome-artmark), you need to remove the mailing list (if any) and then rename it.
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> Again, if you see we 'must' do that, I'm more than happy to do it :)
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>     and perhaps completely rename the first "Human Development" doesnt really convey the
>     purpose of the team!
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> From the archive:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003392.html
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> Allow me to quote:
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>     /*A- Human Resources Sub-Team*
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>        - Although we're probably the first project that have a dedicated
>        team/sub-team for HR (Human Resources) [1] , we have never used it as a
>        sub-team. ALL the recruiting efforts - correct me if I am wrong, please -
>        were done by myself, only, AFAIK and IIRC :)
>        - Because of the great importance of sub-team, I have come up with
>        better idea. I am not going to cancel/drop that sub-team, in fact, I need
>        to send a new email that will explain how powerful this idea will become.
>        So please, give me sometime until I finish that new email :)
>        - I want to re-name this sub-team to: *Human Development*. I am now
>        having more skills of how to take someone from zero and convert him/her to
>        a hero. It's years of practise and beyond. I have many successful examples
>        and I became more experienced with these skills. This will be a dedicated
>        area for newcomers to Ubuntu GNOME or those who feel they're useless or
>        less helpful. That would be a free service my project Kibo [2] will offer
>        for now. I'll be the one who will take care of those. For this cycle, I am
>        ready to take between 5-8 people under my wing. Help them and empower them.
>        Don't want to get more into details here but imagine a newcomer who would
>        become a leader/driver for a sub-team in almost no time? what could be more
>        amazing than that? ;)
>        - The new sub-team (Human Development) will help us to move to Community
>        Version 2.0 and 3.0 - I will send another email about this soon, hopefully.
>        - *Summary*: Rename Ubuntu GNOME HR sub-team to Ubuntu GNOME HD (Human
>        Development) sub-team./
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> That is why I chose "Human Development" :)
I get the concept, but don't think "Human development" really conveys that, we are really talking skills development, but that also is not a
great team name. Not really sure what I would call this one, so I'll go with the stock boring "Ubuntu GNOME new contributors team"
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> And here:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003393.html
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> The Human Resources (AKA Recruiting) is suggested to be done within each sub-team. Since we have created and added the Ubuntu GNOME HR Sub-Team:
> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-hr <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-hr>
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> We have never done anything, really.
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> I am trying to re-explain why I have suggested that on the first place.
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> IMHO, it is better.
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> The human development team can help the newcomers + the existing members to master new skills and add more experience to what they have.
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> Again, I am more than happy to accept any feedback but I thought it is better to re-explain why I am doing all this :)
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> Thanks Tim and everyone for the feedback :)
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> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
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