NEW Sub-Teams for Ubuntu GNOME

Thu Sep 10 07:17:18 UTC 2015

On 09/10/2015 01:38 AM, Tim wrote:
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> On 10/09/15 09:59, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
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>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Tim <darkxst at fastmail.fm <mailto:darkxst at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
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>> Hi Tim and thanks for your reply :)
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>>      On 10/09/15 06:55, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>      > I'd like to introduce:
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>>      >  1. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-humdev <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-humdev> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-humdev>
>>      >  2. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artmark <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark>
>>      >
>>      really, can we come up with better names for these teams,
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>> We're merging 3 sub-teams in 1 so what 'other' names do you have in mind? :)
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>> Is it really necessary to worry about the name? I mean, it is enough for us to understand what each sub-team is for and we can simply
>> translate the idea into words and update our Wiki ;)
>> So, I am not sure what 'other names' should we use?
>>
>> If you, for example, read the description of:
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artmark <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark>
> but what is "artmark"! certainly doesnt convey marketing if view outside of a context, where you know what it means.
>
> how about:
> ubuntugnome-media
> ubuntugnome-pr
> or
> ubuntugnome-artmktg
> the last of which is ugly, but atleast a little self descriptive. I think I would go for the first, ubuntugnome-media
>>      /This is a NEW sub-team for Ubuntu GNOME and will be dedicated for:
>>      (a) Artwork.
>>      (b) Marketing.
>>      (c) Communications.
>>      (d) Public Relations.
>>      (e) Translations./
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> The first four make sense, remind me why translations is bundled up in this?
>> To rename a launchpad team with a mailing list, I need to remove the mailing list and redo the entire thing. I don't mind but I see no 'good'
>> reason for that, IMHO. But then again, if you guys think the name is a high priority then sure :)
>>
>> Just for everyone's information:
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>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-artmark <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-artmark> vs “Ubuntu GNOME Artwork & Marketing” team
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>> It is a click away to rename the 2nd name, which is a label (Ubauntu GNOME Artwork & Marketing team) but to change the first one
>> (~ubuntugnome-artmark), you need to remove the mailing list (if any) and then rename it.
>>
>> Again, if you see we 'must' do that, I'm more than happy to do it :)
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>>      and perhaps completely rename the first "Human Development" doesnt really convey the
>>      purpose of the team!
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>>  From the archive:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003392.html
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>> Allow me to quote:
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>>      /*A- Human Resources Sub-Team*
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>>         - Although we're probably the first project that have a dedicated
>>         team/sub-team for HR (Human Resources) [1] , we have never used it as a
>>         sub-team. ALL the recruiting efforts - correct me if I am wrong, please -
>>         were done by myself, only, AFAIK and IIRC :)
>>         - Because of the great importance of sub-team, I have come up with
>>         better idea. I am not going to cancel/drop that sub-team, in fact, I need
>>         to send a new email that will explain how powerful this idea will become.
>>         So please, give me sometime until I finish that new email :)
>>         - I want to re-name this sub-team to: *Human Development*. I am now
>>         having more skills of how to take someone from zero and convert him/her to
>>         a hero. It's years of practise and beyond. I have many successful examples
>>         and I became more experienced with these skills. This will be a dedicated
>>         area for newcomers to Ubuntu GNOME or those who feel they're useless or
>>         less helpful. That would be a free service my project Kibo [2] will offer
>>         for now. I'll be the one who will take care of those. For this cycle, I am
>>         ready to take between 5-8 people under my wing. Help them and empower them.
>>         Don't want to get more into details here but imagine a newcomer who would
>>         become a leader/driver for a sub-team in almost no time? what could be more
>>         amazing than that? ;)
>>         - The new sub-team (Human Development) will help us to move to Community
>>         Version 2.0 and 3.0 - I will send another email about this soon, hopefully.
>>         - *Summary*: Rename Ubuntu GNOME HR sub-team to Ubuntu GNOME HD (Human
>>         Development) sub-team./
>>
>>
>> That is why I chose "Human Development" :)
> I get the concept, but don't think "Human development" really conveys that, we are really talking skills development, but that also is not a
> great team name. Not really sure what I would call this one, so I'll go with the stock boring "Ubuntu GNOME new contributors team"

If you drop "new" from that I think it sounds and looks fine; "Ubuntu 
GNOME Contributors Team". Obviously those "older" and more experienced 
members will be needed there to guide the newest members.

>> And here:
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2015-August/003393.html
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>> The Human Resources (AKA Recruiting) is suggested to be done within each sub-team. Since we have created and added the Ubuntu GNOME HR Sub-Team:
>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugnome-hr <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntugnome-hr>
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>> We have never done anything, really.
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>> I am trying to re-explain why I have suggested that on the first place.
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>> IMHO, it is better.
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>> The human development team can help the newcomers + the existing members to master new skills and add more experience to what they have.
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>> Again, I am more than happy to accept any feedback but I thought it is better to re-explain why I am doing all this :)
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>> Thanks Tim and everyone for the feedback :)
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>> -- 
>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
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>> Best Regards,
>> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>
>> *http://kibo.computer* - http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
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