Website request: include an easy-to-get-to link to downloads

Narcis Garcia informatica at actiu.net
Tue Nov 17 07:31:54 UTC 2015


I also feel the path to follow too large, al least for .torrent downloads.
Additionally I suggest to not make links for "_blank" target.


El 17/11/15 a les 01:53, Patrik Bubák ha escrit:
> I agree with what has been said. We've discussed this a long time ago
> with the marketing team and the new website will definitely be more
> straighforward.
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>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: Re: Website request: include an easy-to-get-to link to
>     downloads
>     Local Time: November 16 2015 11:00 pm
>     UTC Time: November 16 2015 10:00 pm
>     From: lbsolost at yahoo.com
>     To: steve.lorimer at gmail.com,amjjawad at gnome.org
>     CC: ubuntu-gnome at lists.ubuntu.com
> 
> 
>     On 11/16/2015 03:17 PM, Steve Lorimer wrote:
>>     Hi Ali.
>>
>>     The way I explained how to download Ubuntu Gnome wasn't an attempt
>>     to help people find the download link. It was a step-by-step run
>>     down of the process I had to go through in order to find the link
>>     as a newcomer to the distro and the website. 
>>
>>     In doing do, I was attempting to illustrate just how difficult and
>>     convoluted the hoops are one has to go through in order to
>>     download it.
>>
>>     IMHO I don't think making the download link difficult to find will
>>     make people any more or less likely to read the release notes. If
>>     people are too lazy to read the release notes then they're not
>>     going to read them, regardless of how hard it is to find the
>>     download link.
>>
>>     The pages you linked to
>>     (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/LTS and <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/Non-LTS>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/Non-LTS)
>>     both prominently implore people to read the release notes. 
>>
>>     Would it not be reasonable to have a Download page with nothing
>>     other than the above 2 links on them?
>>
>>
> 
>     Seems reasonable to me.
> 
>     Lance
> 
> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 16 November 2015 at 01:31, Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad at gnome.org
>>     <mailto:amjjawad at gnome.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello Steve and everyone else,
>>
>>
>>         My apology for the delay but I don't login here when it's the
>>         weekends. I take 2 days off from everything hoping to recharge
>>         and think clearly to solve my problems during the week and
>>         working at home, etc etc. So Sat and Sun are my off days :)
>>
>>         On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Steve Lorimer
>>         <steve.lorimer at gmail.com <mailto:steve.lorimer at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>             IMHO, I think it is frustratingly difficult to download
>>             Ubuntu Gnome.
>>
>>
>>         Appreciate your feedback :)
>>          
>>
>>
>>             Here is how you currently download:
>>
>>             Google Ubuntu Gnome
>>
>>                 This leads to
>>                 <https://ubuntugnome.org/>https://ubuntugnome.org/
>>
>>
>>             Read the page until you see: *The latest stable release is
>>             Ubuntu GNOME 15.10.*
>>
>>
>>                 This leads to a blog
>>                 post: <https://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-15-10-is-released/>https://ubuntugnome.org/ubuntu-gnome-15-10-is-released/
>>
>>
>>             Read until you see: *Get Ubuntu GNOME 15.10. *Click
>>             on *Download Ubuntu GNOME 15.10*
>>
>>                 This takes you to:
>>                 <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME>https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
>>
>>
>>             Read until you find *Please use the torrent link to
>>             download. *Click on that link. 
>>
>>                 This takes you
>>                 to <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
>>
>>
>>             Read until you find *Ubuntu bittorrent files can be found
>>             at
>>             <http://releases.ubuntu.com/>http://releases.ubuntu.com/. *Click
>>             on that link.
>>
>>                 This takes you
>>                 to <http://releases.ubuntu.com/>http://releases.ubuntu.com/
>>
>>
>>             Find and click on the appropriate link: *Ubuntu GNOME*.
>>             Click on that link.
>>
>>                 This takes you
>>                 to <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/>http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/
>>
>>
>>             Click *15.10*
>>
>>                 This takes you
>>                 to <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/15.10/>http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/15.10/
>>
>>
>>             Click *release*
>>
>>                 This takes you
>>                 to <http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/15.10/release/>http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/15.10/release/
>>
>>
>>             Find the appropriate file:
>>             *ubuntu-gnome-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent*
>>
>>                 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/15.10/release/ubuntu-gnome-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
>>
>>
>>             Would it not be reasonable to have a link to the torrent
>>             directly on the homepage?
>>
>>             Something like:
>>
>>                 *Download latest version 15.10 via BitTorrent*
>>
>>                 For reasons why bittorrent is best, and other ways to
>>                 download if required, *click here*. 
>>
>>
>>             HTH
>>             Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>         IMHO, the way you explained and described it is really hard
>>         for anyone. Allow me to make life much easier for you and the
>>         rest :)
>>
>>         Let's start from zero:
>>
>>          1. Open your browser.
>>          2. Type: ubuntugnome.org <http://ubuntugnome.org> and then
>>             press Enter.
>>          3. Go to "Download" tab on the top of the page directly if
>>             you're willing to download any version without reading
>>             anything else and find the last link that says "Download
>>             Ubuntu GNOME" and by the way, the page is short so no need
>>             to scroll down a lot to reach there anyway *- OR -* simply
>>             go directly to:
>>             https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME and I'd
>>             suggest here to bookmark that very important page.
>>          4. On the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
>>             page, you will find a tree-view links on the right side of
>>             the page. Click on the version you wish to download and get.
>>          5. Once you choose which version you need, you will go to the
>>             desired page. There are 2 pages, one for the Non-LTS and
>>             the other for LTS releases:
>>             https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/LTS and
>>             https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME/Non-LTS
>>             and that's all.
>>
>>         So, which scenario is easier now? ;)
>>
>>          
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>         Of course, there is a reason and a very valid one why I
>>         haven't made it a one-click download. Because people are too
>>         lazy to read the release notes and then, they rain our mailing
>>         list with tons of emails complaining ;)
>>
>>         If you want me to make it one-button download links then
>>         please, do find some extra hands to help us here!
>>
>>         Otherwise, it is usually one 3-5 people are active and the
>>         rest are? no idea ...
>>
>>         Hope that helps?
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>
>>         Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>
>>         Best Regards,
>>         Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>>
>>         *<http://kibo.computer>http://kibo.computer* -
>>         <http://torios.net>http://torios.net - Ubuntu GNOME
>>         <http://ubuntugnome.org/>
>>
>>
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