OT: Upstart user sessions (was Re: Did an upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10: Reporting bugs)

Marius Gedminas marius at gedmin.as
Tue Apr 28 19:16:34 UTC 2015


On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 05:11:34PM +1000, Tim wrote:
> On 28/04/15 15:56, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> > Some session logs are in ~/.cache/upstart/ (15.04 uses systemd for the
> > system boot and upstart for user sessions.)
>
> I don't think they ever got upstart user sessions working under systemd, atleast they arent working on ubuntu GNOME

Eh?

$ pgrep -l upstart
2340 upstart
2414 upstart-udev-br
2478 upstart-dbus-br
2481 upstart-dbus-br
2485 upstart-file-br

pstree shows

  systemd
    gdm
      gdm-session-wor
        gdm-x-session
          Xorg
          dbus-daemon
          upstart
            dbus-daemon
            dconf-service
            gnome-session
            gnome-terminal
            chromium-browse
            pulseaudio
            (a bunch of other daemons)

This is Ubuntu GNOME 5.04 with the default GNOME session.

There was one Ubuntu release where I was surprised not to find anything
useful in ~/.xsession-errors.  I learned about gdm moving the session logs
into ~/.cache/gdm/session.log, and just as I got used to that, the very
next Ubuntu release (I forgot which!) implemented Upstart user sessions
and moved the session logs into ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session.log.
(And the *next* one renamed them to ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session-GNOME.log.
We Shall Rearrange Stuff All The Time So The User Shalt Not Grow Complacent.)

Marius Gedminas
-- 
Never trust a computer you can't repair yourself.
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