ubuntu-gnome14.04

[Tim]

On 03/05/14 02:31, Paul wrote:
> The version error I agree is not a big thing. I only discovered it when
> I was trying to discover why the gnome-network-manager that worked (yes
> I tested it) on the beta and release candidates of gnome 14.04 worked
> but on the released version don't. Actually there is a long list of
> things that worked on candidates of genome 14.04 but don't in the full
> release. What I find most is that the bugs that are confirmed and marked
> as high priority affecting multiple users have no developer assigned to
> look at them after 2 weeks.
Complaining about generic bugs on a mailing list is not going to help anyone, atleast provide specific examples *with* launchpad links! It is
fairly normal for some bugs to slip through release, especially when the last few weeks of the release cycle is spent stabilising the images and
installer.
>
> Given that gnome 13.10 updates end in the next few weeks it does cause
> some concern.
13.10 support will end around the time 14.04.1 is released, if you are really worried about stability then just wait for that before upgrading!
>
> On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 01:25 +1000, Martin Kelly wrote:
>> Hey,
>> The PPA your talking about isn't just solely Ubuntu GNOME's
>> developers. It is a general ppa for all Ubuntu based OS's. It is the
>> upstream repository they (Ubuntu GNOME) use before including it in the
>> mainline repository. This means it is maintained independently of
>> Ubuntu GNOME. So the bugs you are referring too are inherent from
>> GNOME developers not the developers here.
>>
>> Aside from the version error, which I don't see as that big of a deal.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Martin
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> From:Paul
>> Sent:‎3/‎05/‎2014 12:12 AM
>> To:amjjawad at gnome.org
>> Cc:ubuntu-gnome
>> Subject:Re: ubuntu-gnome14.04
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your reply 
>>
>> The big question is how did so many major bugs appear in the final
>> release that were not present in the beta testing releases ?
>>
>> I accept the point about nothing being perfect and I would not expect
>> that. The point I was trying to make was this. Bugs that have been
>> marked high priority have no developers assigned in 3.10 the release
>> version of gnome yet we get gnome 3.12 in the staging ppa and
>> developers
>> working on that. 
>>
>> So just simple question is the priority getting the bugs fixed in the
>> new release or moving on to the next release ?
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 17:00 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>> Hi and thanks for your reply but please make sure to hit Reply To
>> All
>>> so that everyone read your email as this is a mailing list not an
>>> communication between two people only :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Paul <reclusivegeek at yahoo.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>         Obviously not. But I did notice that it was added 2 days
>> after
>>>         I
>>>         downloaded 14.04 !!.
>>>
>>>
>>> We don't release any version unless we finish the release notes and
>>> publish that at the same time we publish the announcement :)
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the release notes:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
>>>
>>>
>>> This is the known bug:
>>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1299912
>>>
>>> It has been reported in:
>>> 2014-03-30
>>>
>>>
>>> Why we couldn't fix it on time before the release?
>>>
>>> We couldn't for many reasons that I will leave it to the developers
>>> and/or packaging team to comment on :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>         
>>>         I do appreciate that a lot of work went into 14.04 but I
>> must
>>>         say that
>>>         there is a awful lot of bugs in it. Two weeks on from the
>>>         release still
>>>         a lot of the network-manager addons are not working to
>> mention
>>>         just one.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1- Nothing is prefect :)
>>>
>>> 2- Expecting something to work perfectly is a story and 'getting
>>> involved' and 'do' something to help Ubuntu GNOME and deal with a
>>> 'huge burden' is something totally different and another story. 
>>>
>>> 3- Lack of manpower + tight Ubuntu Schedule is another story.
>>>
>>>
>>> That said, you can't really expect something to work with zero bugs.
>>> That is just not logical and will never happen. There will be always
>>> bugs ;)
>>>
>>>  
>>>         
>>>         Maybe my understanding of an LTS release is wrong but I
>>>         understood this
>>>         was aimed at the enterprise. Hence the release date being in
>>>         the middle
>>>         of the Redhat/CentOS conference.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
>>>  
>>>         
>>>         I think when you review the 14.04 LTS release you need to
>> ask
>>>         who your
>>>         target user is because quite clearly being in the middle and
>>>         trying to
>>>         satisfy both solid and stable as well as bleeding edge is
>> not
>>>         working.
>>>
>>> "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying
>> to
>>> please everybody."
>>>
>>>
>>> This is what I personally believe in :)
>>>
>>>
>>> We know nothing is perfect. We know there are some mistakes and
>> bugs.
>>> We haven't said Ubuntu GNOME is No.1 as there is no such thing as
>>> No.1 .. however, we haven't given up and with the so limited
>> manpower,
>>> we got the LTS Status:
>>>
>>> http://ubuntugnome.org/lts-status/
>>>
>>>
>>> IMHO, that was our huge achievement despite all the bad and down
>>> things we have.
>>>
>>> And, as always, we promise to do our best and learn from the past
>> for
>>> a better future :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for your feedback, we highly appreciate that :)
>>>
>>>  
>>>         
>>>         
>>>         On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 16:09 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Paul
>>>         <reclusivegeek at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>         > wrote:
>>>         >         Has anyone else noticed that if you go into
>>>         >         settings->details->overview
>>>         >         it report ubuntu 13.10.
>>>         >
>>>         >         The system was a clean install of gnome 14.04 from
>>>         the install
>>>         >         DVD have
>>>         >         attached the source.list and cant see anything
>>>         wrong.
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Hi,
>>>         >
>>>         > Kindly have a read at:
>>>         >
>>>
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-April/001897.html
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >         Anyone else get the same thing
>>>         >
>>>         >
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>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
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>>>         >
>>>         > amjjawad
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