ubuntu-gnome14.04

[Paul]

The version error I agree is not a big thing. I only discovered it when
I was trying to discover why the gnome-network-manager that worked (yes
I tested it) on the beta and release candidates of gnome 14.04 worked
but on the released version don't. Actually there is a long list of
things that worked on candidates of genome 14.04 but don't in the full
release. What I find most is that the bugs that are confirmed and marked
as high priority affecting multiple users have no developer assigned to
look at them after 2 weeks.

Given that gnome 13.10 updates end in the next few weeks it does cause
some concern.

On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 01:25 +1000, Martin Kelly wrote:
> Hey,
> The PPA your talking about isn't just solely Ubuntu GNOME's
> developers. It is a general ppa for all Ubuntu based OS's. It is the
> upstream repository they (Ubuntu GNOME) use before including it in the
> mainline repository. This means it is maintained independently of
> Ubuntu GNOME. So the bugs you are referring too are inherent from
> GNOME developers not the developers here.
> 
> Aside from the version error, which I don't see as that big of a deal.
> 
> Regards,
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> From:Paul
> Sent:‎3/‎05/‎2014 12:12 AM
> To:amjjawad at gnome.org
> Cc:ubuntu-gnome
> Subject:Re: ubuntu-gnome14.04
> 
> 
> Thanks for your reply 
> 
> The big question is how did so many major bugs appear in the final
> release that were not present in the beta testing releases ?
> 
> I accept the point about nothing being perfect and I would not expect
> that. The point I was trying to make was this. Bugs that have been
> marked high priority have no developers assigned in 3.10 the release
> version of gnome yet we get gnome 3.12 in the staging ppa and
> developers
> working on that. 
> 
> So just simple question is the priority getting the bugs fixed in the
> new release or moving on to the next release ?
> 
>  
> 
> On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 17:00 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> > Hi and thanks for your reply but please make sure to hit Reply To
> All
> > so that everyone read your email as this is a mailing list not an
> > communication between two people only :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Paul <reclusivegeek at yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >         Obviously not. But I did notice that it was added 2 days
> after
> >         I
> >         downloaded 14.04 !!.
> > 
> > 
> > We don't release any version unless we finish the release notes and
> > publish that at the same time we publish the announcement :)
> > 
> > 
> > This is the release notes:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
> > 
> > 
> > This is the known bug:
> >
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1299912
> > 
> > 
> > It has been reported in:
> > 2014-03-30
> > 
> > 
> > Why we couldn't fix it on time before the release?
> > 
> > We couldn't for many reasons that I will leave it to the developers
> > and/or packaging team to comment on :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >         
> >         I do appreciate that a lot of work went into 14.04 but I
> must
> >         say that
> >         there is a awful lot of bugs in it. Two weeks on from the
> >         release still
> >         a lot of the network-manager addons are not working to
> mention
> >         just one.
> > 
> > 
> > 1- Nothing is prefect :)
> > 
> > 2- Expecting something to work perfectly is a story and 'getting
> > involved' and 'do' something to help Ubuntu GNOME and deal with a
> > 'huge burden' is something totally different and another story. 
> > 
> > 3- Lack of manpower + tight Ubuntu Schedule is another story.
> > 
> > 
> > That said, you can't really expect something to work with zero bugs.
> > That is just not logical and will never happen. There will be always
> > bugs ;)
> > 
> >  
> >         
> >         Maybe my understanding of an LTS release is wrong but I
> >         understood this
> >         was aimed at the enterprise. Hence the release date being in
> >         the middle
> >         of the Redhat/CentOS conference.
> > 
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
> >  
> >         
> >         I think when you review the 14.04 LTS release you need to
> ask
> >         who your
> >         target user is because quite clearly being in the middle and
> >         trying to
> >         satisfy both solid and stable as well as bleeding edge is
> not
> >         working.
> > 
> > "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying
> to
> > please everybody."
> > 
> > 
> > This is what I personally believe in :)
> > 
> > 
> > We know nothing is perfect. We know there are some mistakes and
> bugs.
> > We haven't said Ubuntu GNOME is No.1 as there is no such thing as
> > No.1 .. however, we haven't given up and with the so limited
> manpower,
> > we got the LTS Status:
> > 
> > http://ubuntugnome.org/lts-status/
> > 
> > 
> > IMHO, that was our huge achievement despite all the bad and down
> > things we have.
> > 
> > And, as always, we promise to do our best and learn from the past
> for
> > a better future :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you for your feedback, we highly appreciate that :)
> > 
> >  
> >         
> >         
> >         On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 16:09 +0400, Ali/amjjawad wrote:
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Paul
> >         <reclusivegeek at yahoo.co.uk>
> >         > wrote:
> >         >         Has anyone else noticed that if you go into
> >         >         settings->details->overview
> >         >         it report ubuntu 13.10.
> >         >
> >         >         The system was a clean install of gnome 14.04 from
> >         the install
> >         >         DVD have
> >         >         attached the source.list and cant see anything
> >         wrong.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > Hi,
> >         >
> >         > Kindly have a read at:
> >         >
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2014-April/001897.html
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         Anyone else get the same thing
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
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> >         > Thank you!
> >         >
> >         >
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> >         >
> >         > amjjawad
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