Some General feedback

Steve Ovens steve_ovens at linux.com
Sun Feb 16 18:34:47 UTC 2014


Hi Lance,

Thanks for the reply. I wasn't looking for any action really but really
just sharing my experience. I appreciate your opinion.

Cheers


On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  On 02/16/2014 09:29 AM, Steve Ovens wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I thought I would provide some general feedback from my experience with
> Ubuntu Gnome. Before this weekend i had no problems with the 3 or 4
> installs i had done. I speculate that is because of the older nature of the
> hardware (anywhere from 2years old to 8 years old). However i just received
> my new Galago Ultra Pro from System 76 and i had a heck of a time. (For
> those who dont know this is a company that specializes in machines that rjn
> Ubuntu)
>
> First i tried 13.10. The install went fine and the only thing i did was
> setup 3 partitions and i selected the defaults. When i booted in for the
> first time I was unable to log in. I clicked on the user name but no
> password prompt. I dropped to the cli and was able to log in there just
> fine. So i rebooted  few times then gave up and inatalled Antegros. This
> went fine and I am comfortable with Arch to a point (i run it at work
> daily). I decided to take another go with Ubuntu Gnome. This time i tried
> 14.04. I couldnt get past the installer with the alpha 1, alpha 2 or any of
> the 3 nightly builds i have previously used.
>
> I went and redownloaded 13.10 iso and tried that again. I wiped the
> machine got through the install and was finally able to log in. This time
> however i had all kinds of problems with network manager. Wifi worked fine
> but it wasnt detecting eth0. On the cli I used dhclient manually and that
> would bring the interface up just fine. I checked network/interfaces, as it
> is supposed to, only the loop back was defined there. I then followed
> various online guides for working with NetworkManager.conf. I finally got
> the device to show in network manage (i had to uninstall it completely,
> remove the /etc related files, reboot than reinstall) but when toggling the
> device to on, nothing would happen. I tried working the gnome3 ppa into the
> mix but the updated packages introduced other problems i didnt want to fix
>
> I gave up and put on Xubuntu and then installed gnome shell. This was
> super ugly. Things seemed to work ok but this time i could not create any
> vpn connections regardless of installed packages or how many reboots. I
> plugged in the ppa and installed ubuntu gnome desktop. That helped somewhat
> with the ugliness but this still looked off. In addition i started to have
> login problems (intermittent) again.
>
> I redownloaded 13.10 ubuntu gnome and wiped the computer again. Install
> wen fine but this time rebooting brought me to busybox prompt. Examining
> the errors it appeared that it could mount the root device. I tried to fix
> that (verified root uuid and the fstab, was able to chroot into the
> partition just fine).
>
> At this point i used chroot to do-release-upgrade to 14.04. I have been
> successfully running 14.04 for a day using this method. I have been able to
> do everything i need and have had no crashes but man what an unfriendly
> user experience. I would rate this as advanced skill level activity because
> doing a do-release-upgrade from inside a chroot (from a live usb) is not a
> normal process.
>
> Like i said at the beginning i have to imagine that its due to brand new
> hardware (even though all parts are certified for ubuntu). I have 3 laptops
> (2 on 12.04) running with problems as well as a handful of vms. I should
> also note that versions less than 13.10 produced kernel panics during
> initial boot of livecd/usb/pxe boots.
>
> Just thought i would share my 1 bad experience trying to install on brand
> new hardware
>
> Steve
>
>
>  Hi Steve, I'm not a dev by any means but I've been involved in Ubuntu
> testing since 2008 and I can assure you that the only way to get these
> issues addressed properly is to file a bug report for each individual issue.
>
> Lance
>



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