Some General feedback

[Erick Brunzell]

On 02/16/2014 09:29 AM, Steve Ovens wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I thought I would provide some general feedback from my experience
> with Ubuntu Gnome. Before this weekend i had no problems with the 3 or
> 4 installs i had done. I speculate that is because of the older nature
> of the hardware (anywhere from 2years old to 8 years old). However i
> just received my new Galago Ultra Pro from System 76 and i had a heck
> of a time. (For those who dont know this is a company that specializes
> in machines that rjn Ubuntu)
>
> First i tried 13.10. The install went fine and the only thing i did
> was setup 3 partitions and i selected the defaults. When i booted in
> for the first time I was unable to log in. I clicked on the user name
> but no password prompt. I dropped to the cli and was able to log in
> there just fine. So i rebooted  few times then gave up and inatalled
> Antegros. This went fine and I am comfortable with Arch to a point (i
> run it at work daily). I decided to take another go with Ubuntu Gnome.
> This time i tried 14.04. I couldnt get past the installer with the
> alpha 1, alpha 2 or any of the 3 nightly builds i have previously used.
>
> I went and redownloaded 13.10 iso and tried that again. I wiped the
> machine got through the install and was finally able to log in. This
> time however i had all kinds of problems with network manager. Wifi
> worked fine but it wasnt detecting eth0. On the cli I used dhclient
> manually and that would bring the interface up just fine. I checked
> network/interfaces, as it is supposed to, only the loop back was
> defined there. I then followed various online guides for working with
> NetworkManager.conf. I finally got the device to show in network
> manage (i had to uninstall it completely, remove the /etc related
> files, reboot than reinstall) but when toggling the device to on,
> nothing would happen. I tried working the gnome3 ppa into the mix but
> the updated packages introduced other problems i didnt want to fix
>
> I gave up and put on Xubuntu and then installed gnome shell. This was
> super ugly. Things seemed to work ok but this time i could not create
> any vpn connections regardless of installed packages or how many
> reboots. I plugged in the ppa and installed ubuntu gnome desktop. That
> helped somewhat with the ugliness but this still looked off. In
> addition i started to have login problems (intermittent) again.
>
> I redownloaded 13.10 ubuntu gnome and wiped the computer again.
> Install wen fine but this time rebooting brought me to busybox prompt.
> Examining the errors it appeared that it could mount the root device.
> I tried to fix that (verified root uuid and the fstab, was able to
> chroot into the partition just fine).
>
> At this point i used chroot to do-release-upgrade to 14.04. I have
> been successfully running 14.04 for a day using this method. I have
> been able to do everything i need and have had no crashes but man what
> an unfriendly user experience. I would rate this as advanced skill
> level activity because doing a do-release-upgrade from inside a chroot
> (from a live usb) is not a normal process.
>
> Like i said at the beginning i have to imagine that its due to brand
> new hardware (even though all parts are certified for ubuntu). I have
> 3 laptops (2 on 12.04) running with problems as well as a handful of
> vms. I should also note that versions less than 13.10 produced kernel
> panics during initial boot of livecd/usb/pxe boots.
>
> Just thought i would share my 1 bad experience trying to install on
> brand new hardware
>
> Steve
>
>
>
Hi Steve, I'm not a dev by any means but I've been involved in Ubuntu
testing since 2008 and I can assure you that the only way to get these
issues addressed properly is to file a bug report for each individual issue.

Lance
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