[Lubuntu-comms] People do not understand the desktop installer

William wjckc79 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 24 15:38:48 UTC 2013


On 10/24/2013 09:05 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> <amjjawad at gmail.com <mailto:amjjawad at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Nio Wiklund
>     <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         On 2013-10-24 15:31, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>         >
>         > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Nio Wiklund
>         <nio.wiklund at gmail.com <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>
>         > <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com
>         <mailto:nio.wiklund at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >     Hi everybody,
>         >
>         >     Today, there is another person, who misunderstood the
>         partitioning
>         >     dialogue of the desktop installer.
>         >
>         > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2183287
>         >
>         >     'When I went to install 13.10 I chose the option to
>         remove windows and
>         >     replace with Ubuntu. I had two partitions when I chose
>         this. One with
>         >     files I wanted to keep and the other being the windows 7
>         partition. When
>         >     I chose to remove windows I assumed it would be placed
>         on my C drive and
>         >     not my other one. But what actually ended up happening
>         was all my
>         >     partitions merged into one deleting everything. Now I
>         only have Ubuntu
>         >     on my drive. I need help retrieving my files please!'
>         >
>         >     -o-
>         >
>         >     This is what I have been telling, when describing the
>         One Button
>         >     Installer
>         >
>         >     '...
>         >     Case 1: Tool that is easy to use and just works
>         >
>         >     The normal linux installers that come with iso files are
>         complicated to
>         >     use or freeze during the installation process, and you
>         want a tool that
>         >     is easier to use and just works.
>         >     ...
>         >     a. The Desktop Installer is flexible and looks nice, and
>         is generally
>         >     easy to understand, but the partitioning page can make
>         people confused.
>         >     There are several threads at the Ubuntu Forums
>         describing installations,
>         >     where a previous system has been overwritten by mistake.
>         ...'
>         >
>         >     It is really too bad, and something that should be
>         improved in 14.04
>         >
>         >     Best regards
>         >     Nio
>         >
>         >
>         > Hi,
>         >
>         > All that can be solved in one two 'very' simple steps:
>         >
>         > 1- Create a YouTube Video that explains in details HOWTO
>         Install Ubuntu
>         > with all the possible cases
>         > 2- Add a link for that YouTube Video right next to the
>         Download Link so
>         > those who download Ubuntu or any flavour can 'watch' and
>         'learn' how to
>         > install the system
>         >
>         > Time is money and saving time is a very important factor in
>         just 6
>         > months cycle :)
>         >
>         > Just a very quick thought!
>         >
>         > --
>         > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>         > Best Regards,
>         > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>         > Areas of Involvement
>         <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
>         > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>
>         1. I do think it is important to improve the text in the
>         installer itself
>
>
>     Any suggestions? for someone who failed to backup his/her
>     important data before actually wiping his/her HDD, I'd only think
>     he/she will not even bother to read any text :)
>
>         because those who might need the video might not play it.
>
>
>     As I mentioned, the Link of that HOWTO Video must be posted right
>     next to the Download Link with a Note:
>
>     "Please, see/watch this video BEFORE you install the system" :)
>
>     Those who fail to 'read' any improved text or watch the video, can
>     blame no one but themselves.
>
>     Backing up is the very first step. This must be mentioned clearly
>     next to each and every download link, IMHO :)
>
>
>         2. I wrote that it should be improved in 14.04, which is an
>         LTS version,
>         so more than 6 months are involved.
>
>         Best regards
>         Nio
>
>
>     Well, this is not for me to decide. This will go into so many
>     discussions and will take time. Why NOT save the time and just go
>     for the easiest solution rather than changing the whole thing just
>     because 'some' users who can't read nor backup their data?
>
>     But YES, I am WITH any improvement that makes life easier.
>     However, time is the real challenge that we do have. While 6
>     months may look enough for that, IMHO, each minute should be
>     carefully considered :) that is just me though!
>
>     Thanks!
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Nio :D
>
> You have reminded me to add a very important note that I forgot to add!!!
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
>
> http://ubuntugnome.org/download
>
> Once my voice is back to normal (when this ugly flu leaves me alone), 
> I might create a Video and Adding it to our Area on Ubuntu GNOME 
> Website and Wiki Page :)
>
> Highly appreciate the inspiration :D
>
>
> -- 
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> Best Regards,
> amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
> Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement>
> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects>
>
>
While I have nothing but the greatest of heartbreaking sympathy for 
people who wipe their Windows partition by mistake in this manner, I 
truly cannot fathom what they are failing to interpret in the option 
"remove windows". The existence of the option to install side-by-side 
should make the meaning of "remove windows" even more completely obvious 
than it already is. But still, even if the side-by-side option were not 
present... One can only be hand-held so much, but I am starting to think 
that when the "remove windows" option is selected, 3 maybe even 4, 
impossible to misinterpret dialogue boxes should follow. Advising 
someone on the last one to stop right there if they still don't 
understand while referring them to online documentation.
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