[ATTENTION] LTS Release - Urgent Need for More People

[Fran Dieguez]

I have updated the QA Roadmap to step up as part of the QA team, as
this is the role where I can help baring in mind my daily work.

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntugnome-brainstorming/+spec/qa-roadmap

Hope more people could help in other areas.

On 25 December 2013 22:42, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:47 AM, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/25/2013 02:02 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Erick Brunzell <lbsolost at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/25/2013 11:12 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Ubuntu GNOME Community,
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
>>>> <amjjawad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you may know, 14.04 Cycle is an LTS (Long Term Support) Cycle.
>>>>> Having that said, Ubuntu and most of the official flavours will have LTS
>>>>> Release. For the moment, the lack of Manpower could keep us away from having
>>>>> an LTS Release. However, after a discussion with our Developers, we'd like
>>>>> to announce the urgent need for these roles:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1- Someone with Bug Control to 'Actively Commit' to triaging Ubuntu
>>>>> GNOME bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2- Couple of people helping out with 'Bug Fixing'.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3- People to help with 'Packaging' on the PPA's
>>>>>
>>>>> PLEASE NOTE: We are looking for people with experience and skills! We
>>>>> NEED people to commit for 3-5 years support and not just join for few months
>>>>> then leave.
>>>>>
>>>>> NO PROMISES to be made but we would be comfortable enough to submit an
>>>>> application to the Technical Board in order to have an LTS Release when we
>>>>> will have volunteers who can actively contribute and help us.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have the required experience and skills or if you know someone
>>>>> who has, please let us know :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> amjjawad
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The above email was sent in 26th of October, 2013 :)
>>>>
>>>> This was posted on our website on the 3rd of November, 2013:
>>>> http://ubuntugnome.org/urgent-need-for-more-contributors/
>>>>
>>>> Same Call for Help had been posted on our Social Media: Twitter, Goolge+
>>>> and Facebook.
>>>>
>>>> Good News?
>>>> We have so many replies and interested people.
>>>>
>>>> BAD NEWS?
>>>> ONLY FEW are active and I have NO idea where is the rest? :(
>>>>
>>>> Sad but true. While I can't deny I was expecting that but I set my hope
>>>> so high and was really interested to see more interested people.
>>>>
>>>> Having that said, and to re-remind you of this email:
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-December/001240.html
>>>>
>>>> Please be informed that we DO NEED more help, support and contribution.
>>>> Otherwise, and let me be super honest here, having an LTS release might be
>>>> really hard if not impossible.
>>>>
>>>> Not trying to be negative here but rather honest and realistic. We are
>>>> all volunteers here. We appreciate your intentions but we do need your
>>>> actual contributions.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to take this opportunity to thank each and everyone who
>>>> responded to our call of help and actually did contribute and still. THANK
>>>> YOU so much!
>>>>
>>>> Happy Holidays everyone :)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> amjjawad
>>>
>>>
>>> As a follow up to my previous email, just thought to share this with you:
>>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1Mjk
>>>
>>> I shall say/write no more :)
>>> Everything is clear now. And, as always, if you are in doubt, just ask.
>>>
>>> Sorry to spoil your holidays but this is important!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>> Best Regards,
>>> amjjawad
>>> Areas of Involvement
>>> My Projects
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's wait to hear from Tim!
>>>
>>> Even if we can't do an LTS at this stage in our development there is no
>>> reason to think that Ubuntu GNOME will just go away. I've devoted a great
>>> deal of time to testing the upgrade processes detailed at the iso-tracker
>>> and I welcome complaints!
>>>
>>> Lance
>>
>>
>>
>> As long as I am alive and as long as there is Ubuntu and as long as Tim
>> and other great people around, Ubuntu GNOME will NEVER go away, that is a
>> fact :)
>>
>> I think the writer didn't mean exactly that Ubuntu GNOME fade away over
>> night but let's take his words as good intention rather bad/negative.
>>
>>
>> The writer said explicitly, "The Ubuntu GNOME distribution that packages
>> up the latest GNOME Shell 3 desktop environment atop Ubuntu Linux is already
>> conceding they are low on resources and might be incapable of doing a 14.04
>> LTS release come next spring".
>>
>> Is that true?
>>
>> While not your intention you did sound a death knell for the project and
>> now you need to try and "unring" that bell.
>>
>> Lance
>>
>
> I know what the writer said. He did not bring anything from his own pocket,
> he took that from the mailing list and preciously from the chain of emails I
> have sent and Tim has sent previously.
>
> I am NOT going to re-explain myself yet again. Please do read the archive or
> check the previous emails :)
>
> Facts:
> 1- We are indeed short of manpower.
> 2- We had lots of people responded to my call for help.
> 3- We had ONLY few serious people who showed commitment by remaining around
> and actually helping.
> 4- If WE want to have an LTS release, we do NEED MORE people to join, that
> is for sure. That is why I replied my own email which I sent back in Oct and
> included Tim's email.
> 5- I am definitely NOT un-ringing any bell :) the call of help is still
> valid and will still because, as you do know that most of FOSS project lack
> manpower and serious people who stay around.
>
> It is NOT my problem that people don't really read between the lines or
> don't even read :)
> I was super clear. If not, I am asking one more time to please ask if you
> are in doubt.
>
> Ubuntu GNOME with or without an LTS release still exist - Solid Fact No. 1
>
> Ubuntu GNOME 14.04, in order to be an LTS release, the team needs 'more'
> contributions and help - Solid Fact No. 2
>
> Without such help, we can't do much and 'maybe'  there is no LTS release -
> Solid Fact No. 3
>
> I am one of those who will do whatever it takes to have an LTS release but I
> can't do much alone, I will sure need help and again, that is why the
> continuous call for help - Solid Fact No. 4
>
>
> Now, I do hope it is clear for everyone here :)
>
> With all due respect to the writer of that post on that website, he is not
> 'directly' involved and he read the email on the list but perhaps he doesn't
> know the history of everything we are discussing here.
>
> May I remind everyone that the 'official' source of information is this
> mailing list and the channels here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ContactUs#Contact_Us
>
> We are 'not' responsible for any other post that the write speaks his/her
> mind on. I do hope you know what I mean.
>
> Thank you and Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone :)
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> Best Regards,
> amjjawad
> Areas of Involvement
> My Projects
>
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