[wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page

Sat Apr 26 11:06:56 UTC 2014

Hi! :)
Sorry for the delay!  The message had been sent to my spam folder by the
gmail system
"Why is this message in Spam? It contains content that's typically used in
spam messages.  Learn more"
It's more likely to do with re-certification.

So, we might all need to check our spam folders quite a bit over the next
few months! :(

What Leigh suggests makes a lot of sense to me.  I'm only not sure what the
"unsupported" section is about.  I think it might be better to keep them as
sub-pages.

The parent page should surely be;
FireWire
shouldn't it?  Quickest way to deal with the sub-pages that are not already
linked to might be to create a "Links" section at the bottom of the
wiki-page and then copy&paste all those links into that without even
writing any explanations about which each page is for.  The names are good
enough "as is" anyway.

Regards from
Tom :)

On 21 April 2014 12:56, Leigh Tate <leigh.tate at linuxmail.org> wrote:

> Tom, I agree with your assessment of  FireWire<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire>and Firewire
> / combined <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire/combined>. Since
> all the Firewire pages have been edited by the same person, it seems
> reasonable that they had a specific plan in mind. I'm guessing the subpages
> were once linked to the original FireWire page but were replaced with the
> internal links(?).
>
> My function has been check individual pages and move as needed to the
> PopularPages sandbox (To Be Reviewed<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/ToBeReviewed>).
> It tidies up PopularPages <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages>until someone with the appropriate expertise can deal with the moved pages.
> The Firewire pages have been the first in such a state and they puzzled me
> at first.
>
> Here's what I propose. I can move the following to To Be Reviewed<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/ToBeReviewed>-
>
> To the unedited section:
> Fedora Directory Server<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FedoraDirectoryServer&lang=en>(last edited 2012-01-26)
> File Permissions ACLs<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs&lang=en>(last edited 2012-01-18)
> Firefox Plugins <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins&lang=en>(last edited 2011-05-30)
> Fluxbox <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox&lang=en> (last edited
> 2011-04-08)
> FireWire / old Pages / Firewire 01<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire01&lang=en>
>
> FireWire / old Pages / Firewire 02<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire02&lang=en>
> FireWire / old Pages / Firewire 03<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire03&lang=en>
>
> To the no longer supported section:
> Firebird 2.0 <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firebird2.0&lang=en>
>
> Firebird 2.1 <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firebird2.1&lang=en>
>
> Leave the remaining Firewire pages on PopularPages F<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/F&lang=en>
> :
>
> FireWire / Digital Audio<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/DigitalAudio&lang=en>
>
>
> FireWire / Digital Audio / Older Releases<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/DigitalAudio/OlderReleases&lang=en>
>
>
> FireWire / Digital Video<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/DigitalVideo&lang=en>
>
>
> FireWire / dvgrab<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/dvgrab&lang=en>
>
>
> FireWire / Ethernet<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/Ethernet&lang=en>
>
>
> FireWire / Glossary<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/Glossary&lang=en>
>
> It would be nice to have them all properly linked to a parent page, but
> that's outside my particular goal, which is to help keep the PopularPages
> up to date and easy to use.
>
> Leigh
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Tom Davies
>
> Sent: 04/21/14 06:23 AM
>
> To: Leigh Tate
>
> Subject: Re: [wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page
>
> Hi :)
> Just compared;
> FireWire
> Firewire / combined
>
> I think delete the 2nd one.  Better would be to set it as a redirect to
> the first one.
>
> It looks to me like the "combined" page was created after the main one but
> it's unclear why and more recent edits have pulled the information back
> onto the main page.
>
>
> The 2nd page would need more work than the main one to reduce the number
> of times that the word "FireWire" acts as a clickable link and to add links
> that are already on the main page.
>
> So, i think just make the "combined" page into a redirect.
>
>
>
> Wrt the 2.0 and 2.1 pages
> Firebird 2.0
> Firebird 2.1
>
> Normally it would probably be better to just move the pages to
> FireWire / old Pages /
> The "2.", well the dot, puts them together and slightly apart from the
> "02" and "03" pages.
>
>
>
> Wrt the sub-pages i'm not clear what makes them less than proper
> sub-pages.  I think they should be proper sub-pages but i'm not sure what
> extra stuff has to be done to make them so.  Tbh that's probably just me
> having failed to read documentation about the topic of wiki-pages.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> On 21 April 2014 03:03, Leigh Tate <leigh.tate at linuxmail.org> wrote:
>>
>> I just finished checking the pages for PopularPages F page<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/F>and am suggesting the following update unless anyone thinks otherwise. I
>> used the guidelines developed by the NewDocs team.
>>
>> Pages not updated within the past 18 months (possible candidates for
>> ToBeReviewed):<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/ToBeReviewed>
>>
>> Fedora Directory Server<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FedoraDirectoryServer>(last edited 2012-01-26)
>> File Permissions ACLs<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs>(last edited 2012-01-18)
>> Firefox Plugins <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins> (last
>> edited 2011-05-30)
>> Fluxbox <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox> (last edited
>> 2011-04-08)
>>
>> Of the 4 Firewire pages, recommend removing:
>>
>>
>> Firebird 2.0 <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firebird2.0>
>>
>> Firebird 2.1 <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firebird2.1>
>>
>>
>>
>> because version 2.5 is the current stable release.
>>
>>
>> There are 11 Firewire pages listed, but I frankly found it confusing. 2
>> pages appears as though they should be parent pages:
>>
>>
>> FireWire <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire>
>> Firewire / combined <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire/combined>
>>
>> but they pretty much look like duplictes to me. Do we need both?
>>
>> 9 pages seem as though they should be subpages, but they are not:
>>
>>
>> FireWire / Digital Audio<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/DigitalAudio>
>>
>> FireWire / Digital Audio / Older Releases<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/DigitalAudio/OlderReleases>
>>
>> FireWire / Digital Video<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/DigitalVideo>
>>
>> FireWire / dvgrab <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/dvgrab>
>>
>> FireWire / Ethernet <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/Ethernet>
>>
>> FireWire / Glossary <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/Glossary>
>>
>> FireWire / old Pages / Firewire 01<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire01>(also tagged: content cleanup required duplicate article)
>>
>> FireWire / old Pages / Firewire 02<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire02>
>> FireWire / old Pages / Firewire 03<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire/oldPages/Firewire03>
>>
>> There are no links to these from either FireWire<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire>of Firewire
>> / combined <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire/combined>. All
>> the links on those pages are internal. Recommendations?
>>
>> Geoff, if any of these are ones you recently added, let me know!
>>
>> I'll wait to hear from the team, make the recommended changes, and then
>> adjust the PopularPages pagecount on PopularPages/Alterations.<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/Alterations>
>>
>> Leigh
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