[wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page.

[Daniel Doyle]

Hello there,

My names Daniel Doyle, I'm a Drupal developer and studio engineer. I've
been subscribed to this mailing list since 2007 but only ever read, never
participated. I'm making myself know now because in the e-mail Tom Davies
sent he mentioned about getting rid of the FireWire pages? Or have I got
the wrong end of the stick? Do you mean to simply archive them?

I'd say this would be a bad move as a lot of professional audio equipment
still relies on FireWire and having these pages is a useful reference.

Thanks,
Dan Doyle
On 22 Apr 2014 16:58, "Tom Davies" <tomcecf at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi :)
> There is not much point in updating the old pages imo.
>
> I think Firewire didn't really take-off as much as it was anticipated to
> do.  Ethernet and usb-cables still dominate.  Mac systems seem to be
> completely upgraded much more often so i doubt there's a huge demand for
> the older FireWire systems under Ubuntu.
>
> It might be good to keep at least 1 of the pages but only if it/they can
> be stuffed out  of the way a bit.  I like the sub-pages under
> xxxxxxxxx/old/xxxxxxx
> and think at least 1 of the pages might be best 'archived' there.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> On 22 April 2014 16:11, Jonathan Aquilina <eagles051387 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just some thought here, on the PP page couldnt we just update the links
>> of stuff which has been merged and drop the old pages?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Leigh Tate <leigh.tate at linuxmail.org>wrote:
>>
>>> At this point, I am only dealing with the links on the actual index
>>> page, in this case <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/F>. The links are
>>> moved to the PP sandbox <
>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/ToBeReviewed>, as a
>>> heads up that those pages need to be addressed. They are available for
>>> anybody who wishes to do appropriate editing/updating/correcting! In the
>>> past, Pasi has done quite a few of these.
>>>
>>> One thing we never did address, was letting the PopularPages team know
>>> the pages are updated so that links can be reinserted in PP once again.
>>>
>>> Leigh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Jonathan Aquilina
>>>
>>> Sent: 04/22/14 10:26 AM
>>>
>>> To: Tom Davies
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page.
>>>
>>> I see an issue with that if the info has been merged I would put a
>>> notice on the page and remove the content. If the content remains though
>>> people wont go to the new page with the merged info.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Tom Davies <tomcecf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi :)
>>>> Thanks for the clarification there.  That does make me agree with you
>>>> and Geoff.
>>>>
>>>> I think the proper way to do a redirect is to put this line at the top
>>>> of the 'old' page
>>>>
>>>> #REDIRECT [[QA/BugReport]]
>>>>
>>>> where
>>>>
>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QA/BugReport
>>>>
>>>> would be the 'new' page.  Errr, i copied and modified this from a
>>>> LibreOffice wiki which i happened to know was a redirect so ymmv.  I'm
>>>> particularly uncertain about leaving out the "community" bit so it might be
>>>>
>>>> #REDIRECT [[community/QA/BugReport]]
>>>>
>>>> or i could so far off that it's completely wrong.
>>>> Regards from
>>>> Tom :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 April 2014 13:25, Leigh Tate <leigh.tate at linuxmail.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Geoff!
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom, the only thing being moved is the links to the pages, not the
>>>>> pages themselves. Bookmarks will be uneffected. PopularPages is simply an
>>>>> index.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before the NewDocs Team merged with the Ubuntu Doc team (and changed
>>>>> the name to PopularPages), we set up guidelines to keep the index up to
>>>>> date and easy to use. That meant periodic link checking and (re)moving
>>>>> links of outdated or tagged pages, or for versions no longer supported.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leigh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 03:28:20 +0100
>>>>> From: Tom Davies <tomcecf at gmail.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi :)
>>>>> Moving pages around is likely to break redirects and links that people have
>>>>> in their "bookmarks".
>>>>>
>>>>> Redirects are quite simple once you know how to do them.  It's just a case
>>>>> of remembering how.  Errr, i can't remember tbh.
>>>>>
>>>>> It might be more polite to initially put a simple clickable url address and
>>>>> add a note to say that the page has been merged to there.
>>>>> Regards from
>>>>> Tom :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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