<p dir="ltr">Hello there,</p>
<p dir="ltr">My names Daniel Doyle, I'm a Drupal developer and studio engineer. I've been subscribed to this mailing list since 2007 but only ever read, never participated. I'm making myself know now because in the e-mail Tom Davies sent he mentioned about getting rid of the FireWire pages? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick? Do you mean to simply archive them?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'd say this would be a bad move as a lot of professional audio equipment still relies on FireWire and having these pages is a useful reference.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks,<br>
Dan Doyle</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 Apr 2014 16:58, "Tom Davies" <<a href="mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com">tomcecf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi :) <br></div>There is not much point in updating the old pages imo. <br><br></div><div>I think Firewire didn't really take-off as much as it was anticipated to do. Ethernet and usb-cables still dominate. Mac systems seem to be completely upgraded much more often so i doubt there's a huge demand for the older FireWire systems under Ubuntu. <br>
</div><div><br>It might be good to keep at least 1 of the pages but only if it/they can be stuffed out of the way a bit. I like the sub-pages under <br></div>xxxxxxxxx/old/xxxxxxx<br></div>and think at least 1 of the pages might be best 'archived' there. <br>
<div> <br></div><div>Regards from <br>Tom :) <br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 April 2014 16:11, Jonathan Aquilina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eagles051387@gmail.com" target="_blank">eagles051387@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Just some thought here, on the PP page couldnt we just update the links of stuff which has been merged and drop the old pages?<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Leigh Tate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leigh.tate@linuxmail.org" target="_blank">leigh.tate@linuxmail.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">At this point, I am only dealing with the links on the actual index page, in this case <<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/F" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/F</a>>. The links are moved to the PP sandbox <<a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/ToBeReviewed" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PopularPages/ToBeReviewed</a>>, as a heads up that those pages need to be addressed. They are available for anybody who wishes to do appropriate editing/updating/correcting! In the past, Pasi has done quite a few of these.<br>
<br>One thing we never did address, was letting the PopularPages team know the pages are updated so that links can be reinserted in PP once again.<br><br>Leigh<br> <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px"> </p><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #ccc;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px" type="cite">
<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">----- Original Message -----</span></span></p><p style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">From: Jonathan Aquilina</span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">Sent: 04/22/14 10:26 AM</span></span></p><p style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">To: Tom Davies</span></span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;padding:0px"><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">Subject: Re: [wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page.</span></span></p> <div><div>I see an issue with that if the info has been merged I would put a notice on the page and remove the content. If the content remains though people wont go to the new page with the merged info.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Tom Davies <span><<a href="mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomcecf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div><div><div>Hi :) </div>Thanks for the clarification there. That does make me agree with you and Geoff. <br> </div>I think the proper way to do a redirect is to put this line at the top of the 'old' page<br>
<br>#REDIRECT [[QA/BugReport]]<br> </div>where<br><br><a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QA/BugReport" target="_blank">https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QA/BugReport</a><br> </div>would be the 'new' page. Errr, i copied and modified this from a LibreOffice wiki which i happened to know was a redirect so ymmv. I'm particularly uncertain about leaving out the "community" bit so it might be<br>
<br>#REDIRECT [[community/QA/BugReport]]<div><div><div> </div><div>or i could so far off that it's completely wrong. </div><div>Regards from</div><div>Tom :) </div><div> </div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote">On 22 April 2014 13:25, Leigh Tate <span><<a href="mailto:leigh.tate@linuxmail.org" target="_blank">leigh.tate@linuxmail.org</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">Thanks Geoff!<br><br>Tom, the only thing being moved is the links to the pages, not the pages themselves. Bookmarks will be uneffected. PopularPages is simply an index.<br>
<br>Before the NewDocs Team merged with the Ubuntu Doc team (and changed the name to PopularPages), we set up guidelines to keep the index up to date and easy to use. That meant periodic link checking and (re)moving links of outdated or tagged pages, or for versions no longer supported.<br>
<br>Leigh<br> </span></span><blockquote style="border-left:1px solid #ccc;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px" type="cite"><div><div><pre><span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="font-size:12px">
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 03:28:20 +0100
From: Tom Davies <<a href="mailto:tomcecf@gmail.com" target="_blank">tomcecf@gmail.com</a>>
Subject: Re: [wiki] PopularPages - recommended update to F page.
Hi :)
Moving pages around is likely to break redirects and links that people have
in their "bookmarks".
Redirects are quite simple once you know how to do them. It's just a case
of remembering how. Errr, i can't remember tbh.
It might be more polite to initially put a simple clickable url address and
add a note to say that the page has been merged to there.
Regards from
Tom :)
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