Suggestion: make language switching available in official web help for 12.10 and 12.04 desktops

Hannie Dumoleyn lafeber-dumoleyn2 at zonnet.nl
Wed Sep 26 15:50:04 UTC 2012


Hi Tom,
I think we are talking about two different things here.
What Sergey suggested is to put a language selector on this page:
https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/
When I go to this page I get the Ubuntu Desktop Guide in Dutch 
(Handleiding Ubuntu-desktop). I thought it a good idea if users can 
select the Ubuntu Desktop Guide in their preferred language. In my case, 
as a translator, I often switch from Dutch to English. So for me it 
would be a very useful option.
Regards,
Hannie

Op 26-09-12 17:33, Tom Davies schreef:
> Hi :)
> I thought all the wikis grew organically according to which problems 
> people ran into or fancied writing about.  Also different languages 
> have different concepts and structures so filing and naming systems 
> that may make sense in English seem weird or confusing in other 
> languages.  It's why translating sentences word-for-word doesn't work.
>
> For the wiki i think that tends to mean not every page written in 
> English is translated into other languages and trying to do so would 
> be a TFN imo.  Some of the concepts and issues may be dealt with in 
> other languages but possibly on different pages or grouped with 
> different things.
>
> I also thought that a lot of "LoCo" teams have the official website 
> kinda translated but again they miss some pages and add others or do a 
> small amount of re-organisation in order to make better sense for 
> their scale of operation as well as for their language or conceptual 
> issues.
>
> It would be nice to have a drop-down offering different languages and 
> it would be great to have that on each page in every language but 
> ideally it would be configurable per page but by default point to the 
> "Signpost" page of the language being moved to.  There is a search 
> bubble at the top of all wiki-pages isn't there?
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Hannie Dumoleyn <lafeber-dumoleyn2 at zonnet.nl>
>     *To:* ubuntu-doc at lists.ubuntu.com
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 September 2012, 7:05
>     *Subject:* Re: Suggestion: make language switching available in
>     official web help for 12.10 and 12.04 desktops
>
>     Sorry for my late reaction to this email, but I totally agree with
>     Sergey that it would be very useful to be able to select a
>     language. As a translator, I often want to see the page in English
>     instead of my default language, Dutch.
>     As an example, see http://ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=en_US, where one
>     can choose a language:
>
>
>     So, if more people agree that this is useful, perhaps someone can
>     add it to help.ubuntu.com?
>     Regards,
>     Hannie
>
>     Op 07-05-12 15:09, Sergey Papilin schreef:
>>     I discovered that https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/ and
>>     https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/ site directories are
>>     available in several different languages, but there is no way to
>>     switch between them on the site itself.
>>
>>     Currently, to access them, you need to manipulate Accept-Language
>>     request header in your browser. In Firefox, it can be done
>>     (1) by editing intl.accept_languages preference at about:config
>>     page,
>>     (2) in Preferences->Content->Languages window or
>>     (3) by using an extension like Quick Locale Switcher.
>>
>>     I think it's better practice for multi-language site to provide
>>     some control to select the language. It will make difference when
>>     a user is not sure he/she understands a sentence in his/her
>>     current language correctly and wants to consult the same page in
>>     another, or suspects a translation mistake. It will make checking
>>     translations for mistakes on-line faster and easier.
>>
>
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