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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Tom,<br>
I think we are talking about two different things here.<br>
What Sergey suggested is to put a language selector on this page:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/">https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/</a><br>
When I go to this page I get the Ubuntu Desktop Guide in Dutch
(Handleiding Ubuntu-desktop). I thought it a good idea if users
can select the Ubuntu Desktop Guide in their preferred language.
In my case, as a translator, I often switch from Dutch to English.
So for me it would be a very useful option.<br>
Regards,<br>
Hannie<br>
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Op 26-09-12 17:33, Tom Davies schreef:<br>
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helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Hi :)<br>
I thought all the wikis grew organically according to which
problems people ran into or fancied writing about. Also
different languages have different concepts and structures so
filing and naming systems that may make sense in English seem
weird or confusing in other languages. It's why translating
sentences word-for-word doesn't work. <br>
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For the wiki i think that tends to mean not every page written
in English is translated into other languages and trying to do
so would be a TFN imo. Some of the concepts and issues may be
dealt with in other languages but possibly on different pages or
grouped with different things. <br>
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I also thought that a lot of "LoCo" teams have the official
website kinda translated but again they miss some pages and add
others or do a small amount of re-organisation in order to make
better sense for their scale of operation as well as for their
language or conceptual issues. <br>
<br>
It would be nice to have a drop-down offering different
languages and it would be great to have that on each page in
every language but ideally it would be configurable per page but
by default point to the "Signpost" page of the language being
moved to. There is a search bubble at the top of all wiki-pages
isn't there? <br>
Regards from<br>
Tom :)<br>
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<hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Hannie Dumoleyn <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lafeber-dumoleyn2@zonnet.nl"><lafeber-dumoleyn2@zonnet.nl></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Wednesday, 26 September 2012, 7:05<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: Suggestion: make language switching available in
official web help for 12.10 and 12.04 desktops<br>
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<div class="yiv1241208457moz-cite-prefix">Sorry for
my late reaction to this email, but I totally
agree with Sergey that it would be very useful to
be able to select a language. As a translator, I
often want to see the page in English instead of
my default language, Dutch.<br>
As an example, see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=en_US">http://ubuntu-manual.org/?lang=en_US</a>,
where one can choose a language:<br>
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<img src="cid:part2.07060406.02030807@zonnet.nl"
alt=""><br>
So, if more people agree that this is useful,
perhaps someone can add it to help.ubuntu.com?<br>
Regards,<br>
Hannie<br>
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Op 07-05-12 15:09, Sergey Papilin schreef:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">I discovered that <a
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href="https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/">https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-help/</a>
and <a moz-do-not-send="true" rel="nofollow"
class="yiv1241208457moz-txt-link-freetext"
target="_blank"
href="https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/">https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/</a>
site directories are available in several
different languages, but there is no way to switch
between them on the site itself. <br>
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Currently, to access them, you need to manipulate
Accept-Language request header in your browser. In
Firefox, it can be done <br>
(1) by editing intl.accept_languages preference at
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="" rel="nofollow"
class="yiv1241208457moz-txt-link-freetext">about:config</a>
page, <br>
(2) in Preferences->Content->Languages
window or <br>
(3) by using an extension like Quick Locale
Switcher. <br>
<br>
I think it's better practice for multi-language
site to provide some control to select the
language. It will make difference when a user is
not sure he/she understands a sentence in his/her
current language correctly and wants to consult
the same page in another, or suspects a
translation mistake. It will make checking
translations for mistakes on-line faster and
easier. <br>
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