[doc] Dedicated documentation meeting, sign up now ! :)

[Ben Edwards]

OK - we are talking about the same thing - but could we not call them
the leader - it makes me think of hitler and old science fiction films
- can we please call them coordinator.

I actually think the meeting should start by discussing rolls and how
they should be filled - it is possible that no one individual wants to
take on all the responsibility.

In fact do we have a clear mission statement/statement of intent for
the documentation team?  I would like to see usability and
accessibility in it.  We have goals and responsibilities but I think
stepping back and thinking what we are really think to do and how we
hope to acheve this would be good.

Ben

PS

I dont realy agree "Every good group has to have a leader"  I have
worked with many groups who work through consensus and mutual respect.
 What they have is good coordinators and facilitators - lanugage is
very important but dont really want to use bandwidth here discussing
politics.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:32:12 +0200, Sivan Green <sivang.ulists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:24:47 +0100, Ben Edwards <funkytwig at gmail.com> wrote:
> > "We are growing fast, and as everybody must have witnessed some things
> > are starting to get out of control."
> >
> > Just for the record I do not agree with this statement and also think
> > it is a bit early in the day to elect a leader (the word itself sends
> > shivers up by spine).    It is interesting that 'Electing a Leader' is
> > the first thing on the agenda and the discussions so far on the list
> > shows we are far from unanimous in feeling we need one.
> 
> I can understand you're not agreeing with this statement, but try to
> imagine a person green new to ubuntu, not to mention, linux, not to
> mention to wikiness.
> Do you think he would find the current layout of both wikis usable? do
> you think he would be able to navigate through all the good works with
> the cluttering that's apparently happening? and I've yet to mention
> the *new* wiki. How would he react when each and every one of us tell
> him something bit  different when he asks "How can I help?'" ?
> 
> 
> > Do people really feel they need someone in charge to tell them what to do?
> >
> > It would be good to have someone take on a coordination role and
> > liaison is also valuable but I guess the heretical nature of our
> > society makes people always want someone in charge.
> 
> This is exactly what his role would be, a facilitator - not someone to
> tell us what do,
> just more of to give directions, to guide through the wilderness of
> planning. This has succeded  (ubuntu is an example of a such, if I am
> not mistaken see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/governance
> ) in several places, to take people's eneregy and content to do stuff,
> arrange it nicely and make the resulting product monolithic and
> consistent. I hate to see all these good enregy get wasted just
> because we have no real organization and/or authority to carry us.
> 
> We need this person also to take care of us for instance when we do
> something and make sure to upate us or contact us if someone else is
> doing the same, protecting our effort hours. He should be the central
> point of collaboration for us. Not at all someone to "just" tell us
> what to do.
> 
> Every good group has to have a leader IMHO, if only just to represent
> it and take care about its interests according to the  general
> consensus. You can refer to him as the "guy ongaurd" :)
> 
> And yes, I've put it up as first on the list as I feel that before we
> can go in, we need someone to allow us to concentrate on wiriting
> docs, and take care all the dirty jobs of protecting our works and
> help us see the how we fit in the big picture.
> 
> I am putting my best hours into this project, I would like to know
> that there someone on the role, who'd stop changes in something I am
> currently at, until I can come up and discuss this upfront, who'd make
> sure every decision goes through the approval of the community before
> it can be passed. This is a full time job, thus requiring a special
> position in my view.
> 
> Sivan
> 


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