non-Unity flavours and Mir

Oliver Grawert ogra at
Tue Jun 18 10:17:02 UTC 2013

On Di, 2013-06-18 at 06:08 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 09:00:26 AM Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> > On 18 June 2013 07:33, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at> wrote:
> > >  - What's the time line?  When , if we follow along with Ubuntu, would we
> > > 
> > > expect to run with XMir instead of X and when would we expect to integrate
> > > with MIR natively?
> > 
> > Based solely on comments from this thread, as far as I understand, both
> > Ubuntu and KDE will maintain the ability to work with X for the foreseeable
> > timeframe, so this more of a question on which happens first - Ubuntu
> > stopping support for X based desktop environments (unlikely to be very
> > soon, given the popularity of XFCE and friends) or KWin dropping X support
> > in favour of Wayland-only solution (also unlikely to be quite soon given
> > how many distros are not shipping Wayland by default yet).
> > 
> > There might theoretically be new features that work on Mir (or Wayland),
> > but not on X, but those are likely to be minor and more related to boot
> > and/or user switching rather than actual work.
> We covered this already.  That's true, but it's also rather more likely that 
> at some point the X stack will atrophy to the point that it will be buggy and 
> not so reliable (I know that the several engineers Canonical have had working 
> on X related issues are doing actual stuff, so it's safe to assume that if they 
> are focused elsewhere, it will have an actual effect) and so eventually, the 
> fact that X still exists in Ubuntu is unlikely to be a sufficient condition.
> As I've said before, I have no idea how long eventually is.

pretty sure as long as there are X apps being shipped in Ubuntu you will
see full support for XMir (i would assume "eventually" is several years
from now) ...

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