DMB: Proposal for a different review process

[Iain Lane]

On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 02:34:31PM -0700, Chase Douglas wrote:
> On 08/03/2011 02:01 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
> > On 08/03/2011 01:45 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote:
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> >> On 08/03/2011 04:36 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
> >>> On 08/03/2011 12:50 PM, Allison Randal wrote:
> >>>> On 08/03/2011 12:23 PM, Chase Douglas wrote:
> >>>>> On 08/03/2011 12:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Chase Douglas 
> >>>>>> <chase.douglas at canonical.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> What is the policy for email applications? Can anyone apply
> >>>>>>> this way, or is it only under specific circumstances?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Split votes go to the mailing list to try to find enough +1s
> >>>>>> after a meeting. Board members can email in advance a +1/-1 if
> >>>>>> they have no questions (either because they didn't to start
> >>>>>> with or because they already talked to the person)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The only time I've seen the application be done *completely* in
> >>>>>> email was when there was a 9-person-ish queue.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, that's evidence of what's been done in the past, but what is
> >>>>> the policy? Can I do it myself? I'm asking because I seriously
> >>>>> would rather do apply through email than get up at 6 AM on a
> >>>>> Monday morning, hoping there's a quorum :).
> >>>>
> >>>> In my experience with various projects and communities, review
> >>>> processes that are done entirely by email or bug queues are
> >>>> generally less responsive, not more responsive. Regular time-based
> >>>> meetings are a useful social motivator. And, as an applicant, a
> >>>> multi-week email thread picking over their credentials is likely to
> >>>> be far more daunting than a quick discussion on IRC.
> >>>>
> >>>> But, this is a decision for the DMB, or if they choose to escalate
> >>>> it, a decision for higher community authorities. They understand
> >>>> the concern raised by several community members (including you), so
> >>>> it's time to step back and allow the community process to operate.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe my problem is that I'm asking in the wrong forum or the wrong
> >>> way. I have this legitimate question for the board, so how do I ask
> >>> it? I asked Mackenzie because it naturally flowed in the email
> >>> thread, but she's just one member of the board, so it might have
> >>> seemed I was singling her out.
> >>>
> >>> Do I simply need to sit and wait for a response on this thread, or do
> >>> I need to ask somewhere else? I really don't mean to badger with
> >>> questions on the list, it's only because I can't find any information
> >>> on how else to interact with the board.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> -- Chase
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You can contact the whole DMB at:
> >> developer-membership-board at lists.ubuntu.com
> >>
> >> Or add an agenda item for our next meeting:
> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda
> > 
> > Ahh, thanks! I'll subscribe to the list and send any more emails about
> > this there.
> 
> Hrm, that list is private and I can't join. There must be some way to
> communicate with the board other than by adding a meeting agenda or
> hoping that an email you send to a private list is attended to. I would
> also like responses to questions I ask be available to others, and a
> private mailing list doesn't allow for this.

CC the mail somewhere else too.

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Iain Lane                                  [ iain at orangesquash.org.uk ]
Debian Developer                                   [ laney at debian.org ]
Ubuntu Developer                                   [ laney at ubuntu.com ]
PhD student                                       [ ial at cs.nott.ac.uk ]
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