Scott James Remnant scott at
Mon Sep 18 15:38:43 BST 2006

On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 15:47 +0200, Fabio Berta wrote:

> Am Montag, den 18.09.2006, 13:48 +0100 schrieb Scott James Remnant:
> > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 14:27 +0200, Fabio Berta wrote:
> > 
> > > I know, this was brought up before, but why is networkmanager still not
> > > integrated into ubuntu?
> > > 
> > Because it does not work correctly in most situations.
> Isn't that a bit rude to say?
No?  It's entirely correct.

> I mean, if it doesn't work correctly in most situations, why is mostly
> everyone who owns a wlan card using it?
They're not.

> Don't get me wrong, I do not want to blame anyone, I'm just interested
> to know why NM isn't ready yet.
Because it's not.

> So if you could explain these situations, where it doesn't work correctly
> a bit, I would be very grateful!
Sure, NM doesn't work correctly if:

 * you have any wireless card other than an Intel IPW 2100 or 2200, or
   an Atheros card supported by madwifi-ng

 * you have a software-controlled wifi kill switch

 * you have one of several different wired ethernet cards

 * you require a static IP address on any interface

 * you require your own DNS configuration

 * you attempt to suspend or hibernate your laptop

 * you need networking to work before a user logs in

Given that none of these things are "fringe use-cases", and in fact
account for the vast majority of our users, it is not installed by

We considered it for dapper, but found that it's just not mature enough
yet.  Part of the problem is the Linux kernel, part of the problem is
the unfinished stack and part of the problem is NM itself.

I have no doubt that it will be ready eventually, it just isn't yet.

Scott James Remnant
scott at
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