wall of communication [was: Re: why did Ubuntu turn off kernel preemption in Edgy?]

Toby Smithe toby.smithe at gmail.com
Mon Nov 27 07:14:26 GMT 2006

This is definitely the case, and you should look at the
forum-ambassadors spec for a solution.

On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 21:46 -0500, t u wrote:
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> Hi,
> Ben Collins wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 00:24 +0000, Toby Smithe wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 19:11 -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 2006-11-26 at 09:41 -0800, Adam Dingle wrote:
> >>> For feisty, I'm considering a low latency targeted kernel for audio
> >>> users. However, I'm a little reluctant, mainly because I never hear from
> >>> any of the multimedia users (like you) who are interested in this sort
> >>> of functionality until after we release, which for me means I wont get
> >>> any testing on these kernels until after it's too late to fix things.
> >> I think we would be more able to test a kernel if it was available ;)
> >> Everyone at Ubuntu Studio would love this, and you can take that as a
> >> given. If we get a kernel ready for testing, we will test it!
> > That didn't seem to be the case for edgy, considering no one mentioned
> > it until after release :)
> This and the closed-source driver discussions around here seem to
> indicate that there is a lag / wall of communication between what the
> developers are planning for a release and what the dedicated users want
> (or, are willing to do). I started to think that we need a third party
> to tell the users what the devels are after:
> 1. before the release and
> 2. before the important decisions are finalized[1]
> something like an announcement list (should be integrated with
> ubuntuforums.org) where subscribers will see messages like:
> "We will decide on whether we will make the users install closed-source
> drivers by default in one week. If you have any objections, please let
> us know via the <link to some feedback page that *will* be taken
> seriously>"...
> or
> "We are considering a low latency targeted kernel for audio users.
> However, we are a little reluctant and we need testers! See <wiki page
> with instructions for testing and contact info> for more information...
> We will make the final decision 1 month prior to the Feisty release."
> I hope I'm not making any unnecessary noise on the ML by suggesting this :)
> Thanks.
> [1] I don't think the launchpad spec page is really usable for this kind
> of communication...
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