liste at pimpzkru.de
Sat Jan 21 13:58:51 GMT 2006
On Fri, 2006-01-20 at 11:21 +0100, John Nilsson wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 13:07 +0100, Quim Gil wrote:
> > My point is, real new users don't even notice when they are sudo-ing.
> > They don't open the console. They just perfom actions through the GNOME
> > interface and sometimes they are prompted for a password. That's it.
> Not exactly on topic, but very much related.
> >From a usability point of view the current way of doing gksudo behind
> the scenes i sub-optimal.
> There are two usability problems that I can think of:
> 1. There's a poor mapping between potentially harmful operations and the
> need to enter password. As it is now the users has to enter the the
> password just to get information (package explorer, disks-admin and
> stuff like that). There is no mapping between this password dialog and
> the buttons -- those that do the actual harm -- that happens to be
> available in those applications.
> 2. The password dialog isn't consistent. Some operations sometimes pops
> up a password dialog, and sometimes they don't. (I'm talking about the,
> very convenient, sudo time out). So sometimes it's regarded dangerous
> enough to require a password, and sometimes it's OK? Most importantly,
> there is no visibility of this behavior.
> Wouldn't it be better to always show the password dialog on potentially
> harmful operations, BUT have the password prefilled if the timeout
> hasn't been reached? (It would probably be a good thing to tell the user
> exactly what it is that is cached and how long until it will disappear).
> One thing to experiment with is to include a more detailed description
> of what is to be done in the gksudo dialog like this:
> | |
> | Please enter password to install the |
> | these packages: |
> | _______ |
> | | pkgA | |
> | | pkgB | |
> | ``````` |
> | __________________ |
> | Password: |******** | |
> | `````````````````` |
> | ______ ________ |
> | |Cancel| |Continue| |
> | `````` ```````` |
> Maybe even include a little [?] button to trigger a little pop-up
> explaining why installing packages could be harmful.
Last week I filled a bug against gksu, since it uses a too technical
Perhaps gksu should follow the design of gnome-keyring-manager. See a
mockup here: http://librarian.launchpad.net/1518295/mockup-gksu.png
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