OT: Mark made my day!

[Corey Burger]

On Apr 12, 2005 9:19 AM, Thom Holwerda <slakje at quicknet.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > 1. I disagree with this and happen to dislike macos style of menus. I
> > also question there overall usablity (a bigger issue)
> 
> Well, I happen to agree with him here for the full 100%. I've never been
> fond of the
> "every-window-needs-to-have-a-menubar-for-no-reason-other-than-it's-
> the-current-paradigm-whether-it's-the-right-paradigm-or-not" ;). And
> yes, I am a Mac user, but only since last summer. I preferred the whole
> "menubar-atop" thing before that (setting the option in KDE, installing
> ObjectBar on Windows).
> 
> I think that the most important thing to do when looking at UI
> behaviour/design is putting parts of UI we find normal, under the
> microscope. Are they really the best? Are there better alternatives? And
> most of all, have I tried those alternatives before judging them? (no
> personal pun intended to anyone).
> 
> There actually was a discussion about this on Gnome's desktop-devel
> list:
> 
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2005-April/msg00002.html
> 
> It's an interesting read.
> 
> Thom Holwerda
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I read through the thread. I saw nothing there that would convince me that 
this "feature" is one of the worst ideas that Apple has come up with. To me, 
it fails at least two tests:
1. Hiding something and is always useful, in this case the upper panel bar. 
Fine, you can move that to bottom, but I use both bars and I suspect most 
people do as well, aside from the ones who use it because it is default and 
most users never change the default
2. Increasing mouse movement. Anything that increases mouse movement is bad, 
as it takes time and coordination.

However, it does solve the problem of messy toolbars, but I think it solves 
it wrong way.

BTW, I have seen nothing come by Gnome-usability on this, and I am 
subscribed to that.

Corey

PS. Gmail needs to realize that bottom posting is better
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