Devuan

[Alexander Hanff]

Who died and made you god of what people can and cannot discuss on this
list.  Diego spotted an interesting new development which he brought to the
attention of the list with the suggestion that it might potentially be
useful to Ubuntu in the future - that is completely relevant and completely
acceptable content to post - you have zero right to come down on him and
accuse him of being off-topic just because you don't like the idea, so
please, get off your high horse.

-----Original Message-----
From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
[mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Kitterman
Sent: 01 December 2014 18:03
To: ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Devuan

As I explained, it's not relevant.  I get you think it is.  I disagree.  The
mail (since you care to debate it) is also based on a false premise.  There
is no requirement in Debian to use systemd as the init system.  It is the
default.  It's trivial to retain sysvinit and possible to use upstart.

None of which is relevant to Ubuntu which has never offered init system
choice and moved off of sysvinit last decade.

Scott K

On Monday, December 01, 2014 05:58:37 PM Alexander Hanff wrote:
> I don't think your response was called for Scott - whether you agree 
> or not with the suggestion doesn't make it any less relevant.  To say 
> it is off-topic is ridiculous, it is absolutely relevant to Ubuntu 
> development and was something Diego wanted to point out as a potential 
> option for Ubuntu in the future.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of 
> Scott Kitterman
> Sent: 01 December 2014 17:42
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Devuan
> 
> On Monday, December 01, 2014 11:22:22 AM Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote:
> > I just learned of the launch of Devuan https://devuan.org/ A fork of 
> > Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and promises 
> > to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community towards the 
> > derived distros Will have to see how the project evolves, but if 
> > they do not be a bad idea that Ubuntu will begin to rely on it
> 
> That's rather unrelated to Ubuntu development.  Ubuntu has taken it's 
> own decisions on init systems for some time (it wasn't in this decade 
> that Ubuntu last had a release that used sysvinit).
> 
> Please stay on topic.
> 
> Scott K
> 
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