Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Mon Dec 1 17:03:17 UTC 2014

As I explained, it's not relevant.  I get you think it is.  I disagree.  The 
mail (since you care to debate it) is also based on a false premise.  There is 
no requirement in Debian to use systemd as the init system.  It is the 
default.  It's trivial to retain sysvinit and possible to use upstart.

None of which is relevant to Ubuntu which has never offered init system choice 
and moved off of sysvinit last decade.

Scott K

On Monday, December 01, 2014 05:58:37 PM Alexander Hanff wrote:
> I don't think your response was called for Scott - whether you agree or not
> with the suggestion doesn't make it any less relevant.  To say it is
> off-topic is ridiculous, it is absolutely relevant to Ubuntu development and
> was something Diego wanted to point out as a potential option for Ubuntu in
> the future.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at
> [mailto:ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at] On Behalf Of Scott
> Kitterman
> Sent: 01 December 2014 17:42
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss at
> Subject: Re: Devuan
> On Monday, December 01, 2014 11:22:22 AM Diego Germán Gonzalez wrote:
> > I just learned of the launch of Devuan A fork of
> > Debian which eliminates the requirement to use systemd, and promises
> > to build a less bureaucratic and more friendly community towards the
> > derived distros Will have to see how the project evolves, but if they
> > do not be a bad idea that Ubuntu will begin to rely on it
> That's rather unrelated to Ubuntu development.  Ubuntu has taken it's own
> decisions on init systems for some time (it wasn't in this decade that
> Ubuntu last had a release that used sysvinit).
> Please stay on topic.
> Scott K
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