The disgrace of (the) Kompozer (package maintainer)

[John Vivirito]

On 09/04/2009 04:50 PM, Caroline Ford wrote:
> What you need to do is work out the package name of the version in  
> jaunty.
> 
> I looked on packages.ubuntu.com and it ends with 0ubuntu6. This means  
> that there is a maintainer in Ubuntu (and unusually not in Debian). it  
> does seem that the fixed version is in karmic so we need to arrange a  
> backport.
> 
> What we don't need is a needs packaging bug, as they are for programs  
> that don't exist in any version in the repositories. This is more of  
> an update.
> 
> Caroline
> 
> 
> Sent from a mobile device.
> 
> On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:10, Patrick Goetz <pgoetz at mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> 
>> We are currently using Jaunty 9.04 (64 and 32-bit) on our production
>> desktop systems.  A few weeks ago a user asked me for a recommendation
>> for an easy to use html editor, and I suggested KompoZer.   
>> (Suggestions?
>>  I think I've tried most of them and found them lacking; the original
>> Netscape Composer, now found in SeaMonkey still seems to be the best  
>> for
>> fast, simple editing of static HTML pages by naive users.)
>>
>> The version of KompoZer in 9.04 universe is 0.7.10.  The user came  
>> back
>> a few days later complaining about bugs.  I didn't believe him until I
>> tried it myself.  Sure enough, just hovering the mouse over certain  
>> menu
>> items (e.g. file -> recent pages or formatting -> fonts) make the
>> program crash every time -- the editing window simply disappears.   
>> Feel
>> free to try it yourself.
>>
>> It took exactly 15 seconds to confirm that this is a known bug (in
>> Intrepid!) and another 5 seconds to find out what it was.  Tracking  
>> down
>> the bug involves the following complicated steps: google for the work
>> "kompozer" and then click on the first link which appears, the  
>> kompozer
>> project home page, where one finds the following text right in the
>> middle of the main page:
>>
>> "Linux users: KompoZer 0.7.10 is not compatible with GTK 2.14 and
>> higher, hence the crashes. Please have a look at KompoZer 0.8 alpha."
>>
>> Now, is it finally appropriate for me to say WTF?  Is the package
>> maintainer for this package in a coma?  It shouldn't take more than  
>> one
>> use of the program to realize that there is a problem:  if the mouse
>> pointer comes in contact with the test "recent pages" the program
>> crashes.  Changing the font, a frequently invoked action, is  
>> completely
>> impossible.
>>
>> Since we all care about linux/Ubuntu on this list, I presume that I
>> don't have to say that we simply can't afford to continue to have  
>> these
>> kinds of embarrassing basic quality control issues.  If a package  
>> isn't
>> really being maintained, then it shouldn't appear in any of the main
>> repositories.  What's the definition of "really being maintained"?   
>> For
>> starters, trying to run the program at least one time with the new
>> distribution before publishing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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As i recall the person that started the package "was"
maintaining it. However the name escapes me atm. It should be
found in package, there should be a changelog for the package :)

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
    John Vivirito

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