Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.ledkov at
Sun Jun 21 20:39:23 UTC 2009

2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede <sense at>:
> As far as I'm aware there has been no discussion whatsoever about
> removing either F-Spot or Mono in Barcelona. There is also no
> blueprint nor other discussion. This is the first time it's suggested,
> if I'm correct.

Ok fair enough (it's just with the recent discussions and planet posts
I though I've missed something)

If it is first time proposed could you please start a blueprint in
launchpad and have CategorySpec page on it has some
basic structure and description what the spec is about, what needs
changing, why it needs changing, user case etc.

I think we close to the FeatureFreeze and I think only already
proposed blueprints are for consideration to be accepted for karmic
[1]. I don't think it will make it into the Karmic but you should
start this process such that it will be all recorded and documented.


> languages. This is also not what I had in mind. I think Ubuntu should
> try to include as many interface translations as possible to fulfil
> the promise the many languages you can choose from during the boot.
> Currently a lot of those choices don't have a lot of effect on the
> language of the interface.

As far as I know (i might be wrong) translations after certain
threshold go into LiveCD so not all of those translations are 100%
complete. It's not an issue there isn't space for them it's the case
they are not translated in the launchpad.

So far original proposal is a few ideas torn out of context and are
not that well defined - do you want to:

1) Replace F-spot with something else (Is F-spot bad? What are other
alternatives? Why do you want to replace F-spot? What are usecases
that fail now and would be fixed by your spec)

2) Remove Mono from LiveCD (Again why? What are the benefits? What are
the Cons? How does this benefit Joe and Jane?)

3) Add More Languages to LiveCD (Which one is missing? What's it's
translation status? Is there an active translation team? etc)

4) Free up space on LiveCD (What? Why? Note that LiveCD are literraly
squished by the Developers so everything on it is for a reason and
each release they squish a lot into it already. And everything has a
price of choice.)

So could you please give a little bit of thought to your original
email and try to put down a well-defined well rounded goal in one
sentence and a quick description in a small paragraph. This way a
productive discussion can start and spec drafted later on. Other-wise
this thread has very high chance of exploding in a flame-war because
very little detail are given and it involves remotely a hot topic
around mono.

With best regards

Dmitrijs Ledkovs (for short Dima),
Ледков Дмитрий Юрьевич

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