Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD

Sense Hofstede sense at
Sun Jun 21 20:15:16 UTC 2009

2009/6/21 Dmitrijs Ledkovs <dmitrij.ledkov at>:
> 2009/6/21 Sense Hofstede <sense at>:
>> give us back 10MB -- no dependencies included -- and pave the way for
>> removing Mono from the LiveCD altogether, saving a heck lot of space
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Never saw a blueprint nor a proper spec about this. This is a major
> change to Gnome, Live CD and Ubuntu. Has this been discussed at UDS?
> Where is wiki / blueprints?
>> that can be used for e.g. supporting more languages.
> Aren't we already supporting all the once that are translated for the
> UI or do you want to bring in all the docs in all languages for OO.o
> in LiveCD? (Is it like loads of MB)
> Am I missing something but I don't remember seeing posts about
> translations being cut from the CD. If their are not kept upto date
> what the point of having them?
>> I suggest to seriously consider removing it.
> Why? Eg. Boot into live CD mount your harddrive (system fails to
> boot), open your Fspot library of the drive finish uploading your
> vacation photos and then go back to fixing your unbootable machine
> cause you've been messing about to do some productive and useful work.
> Basically <citation needed> and <data needed>. Please provide relevant
> links to past discussions, blueprints, wiki pages cause I somehow fail
> to pick up your big proposal from above.
>> Kind regards,
>> --
>> Sense Hofstede
>> <>
>> PS: You might say that GIMP should be removed too because it would
>> also require images to work. I don't think that's a valid argument
>> since GIMP allows you to create work too, F-Spot doesn't.
> 20/26 MB of Gimp is Documentation as pointed out on Ubuntu Planet.
> --
> With best regards
> Dmitrijs Ledkovs (for short Dima),
> Ледков Дмитрий Юрьевич
As far as I'm aware there has been no discussion whatsoever about
removing either F-Spot or Mono in Barcelona. There is also no
blueprint nor other discussion. This is the first time it's suggested,
if I'm correct.

Including the documentation would indeed be impossible to do for all
languages. This is also not what I had in mind. I think Ubuntu should
try to include as many interface translations as possible to fulfil
the promise the many languages you can choose from during the boot.
Currently a lot of those choices don't have a lot of effect on the
language of the interface.

Kinde regards,
Sense Hofstede

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