fsck on boot is major usability issue

[Jonathan Musther]

I agree entirely, the user shouldn't have to say, "no, don't do it" they
should have to say "yes, now is a good time".

On Dec 22, 2007 10:46 AM, Chris Martin <chris at martin.name> wrote:

>  I have been following this and I thought I would add my 2 cents worth
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> (1)     At shutdown is good
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> (2)     Timeout/interuptable – is good
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> (3)     BUT.  The default action should be "No Action"
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> At shutdown the user is prompted that a file system check is required
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> When the timeout occurs (it should be short – say 30 seconds) the default
> should be to skip it until the next shutdown
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> IE the user has to explicitly select that now is a good time to do the
> fsck.
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> One the fsck is complete the machine turns off as usual
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> *From:* ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
> ubuntu-devel-discuss-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *Jonathan
> Musther
> *Sent:* Saturday, 22 December 2007 5:54 AM
> *To:* Aurélien Naldi
> *Cc:* ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com
> *Subject:* Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue
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> If it was moved to shutdown, I would assume that the user would be able to
> skip it, or better yet they would be prompted.
>
> I have been contacted by autofsck users who have turned off a laptop and
> then closed the lid immediately (or turned off a desktop and immediately
> switched off the monitor) and not noticed the autofsck dialogue, one user's
> laptop remained powered on until the battery was flat.  In that particular
> case it was in his laptop bag on a bus journey, not the best place to have a
> powered up hard drive.  The latest version now contains a timeout, if no
> selection is made within 2 minutes, the machine will shut down without
> running the check.  There's also an audio prompt to try to combat this.
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> The way I see it, if somebody turns on a computer, it doesn't matter
> whether they absolutely need it right now, say for a presentation, but they
> certainly want to use it now.  When most people shut down, they don't care
> as they're no longer using it, with the addition of an autofsck style
> prompt, they can postpone it if they need to.
>
> Every time a new feature in a new version of Ubuntu means faster boot
> times, this is publicised as a great thing, I find it odd that at the same
> time we allow one in every 30 boots to be very, very long (with modern sized
> disks).
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>  On Dec 22, 2007 2:20 AM, Aurélien Naldi <aurelien.naldi at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On ven, 2007-12-21 at 08:13 -0500, Evan wrote:
> > My personal preference would be to move it to shut-down, but an
> > interruptable check on boot is better than nothing. Just my two cents.
>
> I'm not sure that moving it to shutdown is a proper solution. Think
> about a laptop shuting down because its battery is nearly empty: how
> good is it to slow down the shutdown and risk a brutal power off ?
> Also, I'm often waiting for my computer to shutdown before leaving, I
> don't want to be late because of a fsck.
>
> Making it interruptible and runnable on demande easily is more
> important, then it can be on bootup or shutdown, I don't care ;)
>
> Regards.
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