Ubuntu development...

[Jonathan Jesse]

On Saturday 25 August 2007 12:57:21 Tim Hull wrote:
> > The fact that you submit bug reports and do not follow up / patch them
> > yourself
> > shows a severe disinterest in *really* helping ubuntu and (like most
> > new devel's in all projects) just want to focus on the hot-dog stuff.
>
> I do follow up - in fact, I've often posted additional info on my bug
> reports as to the origin of the issue/suggestions as to what could be done.
>  I may not have the solution to everything, but that doesn't mean that I'm
> just being lazy or "just focusing on the hot-dog stuff".  Maybe it means
> that for you, but I've submitted bugs/ideas to other projects (including
> *Debian*, of all distributions) and have received plenty of response.
>
> > 2) RTFM. Please. Coming onto the mailing list and asking for manual
> > locations makes me want to knife myself. Yes it could be clearer, but
> > you are not asking for help or clarifying a point, your just being
> > lazy.
>
> I'm not asking for something trivial - I'm asking how to provide
> input/ideas regarding key components of the system.  It's perfectly clear
> how to do MOTU/Bug Squad/etc - it's NOT clear how to go about suggesting
> changes to the main desktop setup.  I've looked countless times on
> Launchpad and have remained stumped - "RTFM" really doesn't help one bit.
>
>
> 3) Before you start working on MAJOR new features, why not help fix
>
> > bugs and other common problems first? Wouldn't these be more benficial
> > and a better learning process than "Making the default system look
> > better"?. BTW the way it renders fonts is entirely appropriate: Most
> > people get used to MS's crappy way of sub-sampling fonts to make them
> > look sharper.
>
> In many of the cases I've discussed, I'm not necessarily talking about
> coding a major new project from scratch - I'm talking about integrating
> already existing code into the system, investigating changes in default
> settings, etc.  Yes, I certainly would work on the smaller bugs/issues as
> well - and I already know where to go for that (Bug Squad, MOTU, etc etc).
>  However, it's unclear where to go with basic desktop issues/ideas, other
> than to file a bug in Launchpad, provide all the info you can, and wait.
>
>
>
> Do any Ubuntu developers care to comment?  I'd like to contribute, but I'm
> beginning to feel like I can't do so in any meaningful way outside the
> "universe" and Launchpad bug reports (which, even when I provide extensive
> info and narrow the problem to something fairly specific, don't tend to get
> much response).
>
>
>
> Tim

Not a Ubuntu-Core developer or in fact someone who packages or anything but 
I'm suprised by the rudeness of the person who responded to Tim.  WHy would 
he then want to still work for a community that treats him such.

Im sorry you were dealt such a low blow via email

Jonathan