Moving the Ubuntu Wiki to Mediawiki or something else?
peter.matulis at canonical.com
Tue Feb 16 21:58:45 UTC 2016
Migration will probably be easier with DokuWiki since its backend is a
filesystem, like MoinMoin. Not that I want a en-masse migration to take
place. I think this is a good opportunity to start "a new Earth".
Also, DokuWiki has ACL built in whereas MediaWiki does not.
Both these pieces of software appear well maintained/developed. It is a
mystery to me why the Ubuntu packages are so far behind upstream.
Here is some stuff to chew on:
On 16 February 2016 at 16:26, José Antonio Rey <jose at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Right. We need to start at some point, or we're going to be forever stuck.
> My main proposal here would be starting a timeline, that starts with an RT
> filed on the system asap. Then, if we don't agree on which system to use,
> to test both of them for a stated period of time. Finally, vote on which
> system we believe is the most easy to use/practical and start the migration
> to that system.
> For now, the open source options are MediaWiki and DokuWiki. As far as I
> know, both of them are charmed in Juju, and their implementation with IS
> would be a matter of confirming they are willing to provide the space, and
> launching the servers.
> On 02/16/2016 04:12 PM, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson
>> <gunnarhj at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> On 2016-02-16 19:53, José Antonio Rey wrote:
>>>> Currently, the Ubuntu Wiki is based in moinmoin, which is a slow
>>>> platform due to several reasons.
>>>> There's some people who are evaluating the option to move the wiki
>>>> outside moinmoin, and have suggested Mediawiki.
>>> As far as I understand there are currently two MoinMoin wikis:
>>> Are we talking about both?
>> The discussion began with wiki.ubuntu.com, but given all of our
>> problems with the help wiki (even before the spam bots), both should
>> be transitioned to something new.
>> As regards the community help wiki, there is a much more urgent issue:
>>> Due to a spambot incident, it's actually not a wiki for the time being,
>>> since only a small group of editors has access to make changes.
>>> There is an open RT ticket:
>>> Sure, if the current wiki software isn't sufficient to handle the
>>> current sizes of the wikis, I'm all for a change.
>>> My main concern is about priorities. The emergency wiki issue is
>>> described in the RT ticket. Please fix that issue first.
>> I agree, we should make sure immediate efforts are focused on getting
>> edit access back to our help wiki. It's been over a month and a half
>> and this has been a really painful time for all contributors.
>> But maintenance-wise these are related. If we were on a more
>> maintainable platform it wouldn't take so long to evaluate problems
>> and restore access.
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